Ah well if you beat Hull KR maybe we can be undisciplined again together 1 more time!

no, you are right,

It was a clear question to a specific statement that wigan 'wouldnt want to win like that'

I simply asked how that could be the case when Wigans penalty count is the highest in the league, Joel Tomkins is the most penalised player in the league, and it would be naive to pretend at least some of those penalties werent deliberate attempts to seek advantage and therefore comparable with Mcguire

I made no reference to Wigans overall discipline was any better or worse than Leeds and i even pointed out a page ago that the fair-play index was irrelevant and a month out of date

Bring it on...!!!

If theyre owt like the Cup Quarter and last night night then it should be a humdinger.

Need to get past a confident Hull KR though first.

Ha ha! can you see what you have done here? You are the ones kicking off about Leeds disipline re mcguire! and yours is worse than ours infact it's the worst in the league! that's the hypocrisy you are demonstrating.

That's why you are been taken to task on it.

people have been bleeting about karma?? Well Wigan just got a nice dose last night!

You need to learn to read a few posts back before commenting, check the fair play index

Wrong - it was TA having a go at our disciplinary record!

I've nowhere said ours is good, or acceptable.

BUT yours is as bad, if not worse than ours love.

its going to be quite funny to see the backtracking when the updated fair-play index is released,

No backtracking from me. Our disciplines awful. Will you admit the same?

no, i wasnt, it has been pointed out to you by two separate people now

How has this thread got to 15 pages????

not really, its no different to where it has been for the last three or four years, I dont think your discipline is particularly awful either,

God i just read the whole of this, shocking posts off some, truly shocking.
Here's some points of me

1st Hope Danny is ok
2nd Wigan were 14 nil up yet you blame a Danny Mac tackle with 5 seconds to go ?
3rd Every player, even if he knew the consequences would be a one match ban, would do the same if it meant his team won, i have no doubt whatsoever whether it's right or wrong is another discussion.
4th Richards missed 3 kicks
5th Sam cheated so why all the righteous indignation over MacGuire
6th Joel should have been sent off but wasn't, is this not fair to Leeds who may well have gone on to score a try with wigan having one less man.
7th Sinfield you are taking liberties with the 'only the captain speaks to the ref' privilege
8th It was a cracking game for the neutral (yes i'm a wire fan but i was neutral)

Lastly, people need to calm down, we have some serious anger issues, both teams are still in it, at least you weren't as sh*te as us.

Why didn't Richards kick inside to Tomkins?

Maybe he thought that as Donald was committed to tackling him, he wouldn't be able to change direction at speed?

Cant see it, even if he has to kick with his left/outside of his right to get it in field, its worth a punt, then get brought back for the "penalty". Sam was in acres of space.

man of steel? he certainly doesnt have balls of steel. Bottler! Dont really have time for either team, but its amazing how all you pie eaters went ballistic when Mason stood on poor stueys hand but what Tomkins did wasnt much different, will you be screaming for a 3 match ban? Course noy. Like Mason he is just a cheap shot merchant, not for the first time either. Hope Hull Kr smash you, you little girls!

By 'hand' can we assume you mean achilles?

Well he is from Huddersfield

Listen to this guy, he could teach a lot of people who have posted on this thread a few things about human beings and humanity. Much of this thread seems to point to a vicious nature in fans, and clear and unreasonable prejudice. I just wonder whether it is the disappointment of losing when you were not supposed to that has brought out this backlash? Pretty embarrassing to read some of your comments. I know I shouldn't have bothered .........

Yes Sir

why did you then? Decide to climb down from your high horse?

I meant ankle, dont know where I got hand from

I can only imagine

Or in reality, McGuire tugged a bit at Carmont's shirt while Carmont was still in his own half with Leeds players covering and Carmont fell over like Emile Heskey, and Richards hoofed his awful "kick on" pretty much straight into touch and was then tackled a split second later. If Donald had made a Herculean effort and somehow avoided Richards then there was still absolutely no chance whatsoever he would have gotten anywhere near the ball apart from picking it up from the crowd after the hooter.

This is the most pathetic thread I've seen on this forum. You're still in it. Leeds have won 3 GF's after losing their first playoff game. You didn't lose your best player either, the one guy who's been ripping it up all year for us consistantly making big plays. In the last few weeks we lost the England captain until next April, the guy who could have filled in for him to a brainless challenge from a Cas cement head and have most of the rest of our pack carrying serious knocks. Stop whining, oh sorry that's us isn't it? You have every chance now to put it right next week and come back strong. Champions don't give up. Are you Champions? Time to ask the question.

Carmont would of stayed up if he could of done, why would he go down with seconds left and an easy tryscoring opportunity on the cards to win the game?

Leeds players covering? What a crock of crap


If mcguire doesnt take out Carmont it would of been a try.

FWIW im not ed off or anything as its not over yet. Im just letting you know your wrong.