What were your initial opinions of the incident? Did you think it was a chicken wing tackle?

I know I’m not on my own on this one in saying I didn’t think there was anything in it ad I’ve watched it a few times since I still can’t see anything untoward. Why should I now change my opinion because Lima has pleaded guilty? Do you not think he might have lied in order to get off lightly? We know that Wigan don’t seem to appeal anything the RFL hands out to them so maybe this was his only option.

To me the club have shown great restraint and respect to the disciplinary procedure and the RFL. They could of easily appealed and going off last year it would of probably at least got reduced by one.

To me the tackles didnt deserve a ban but i dont make the rules and i dont know to the exact word how they are interpreted i.e how much pressure on the arm gets you pulled up etc. I wouldnt be so ed off if all similar offences were punished the same though. To get a 2 game ban for something that other players have only had a penalty against them during a match is just totally out of proportion and very unfair.

No issue for me - all it means is that a player who contributed to getting to the WCC will now get a chance to play in the game. It might lessen our chances of a win in the WCC, but I always thought we would be up against it in any case.

Hopefully Lima will learn some lessons from this and adapt his tackling technique accordingly.

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Both were treated as separate incidents and he pleaded guilty to both so we can't ignore that. He gains absolutely nothing by pleading guilty to both when he didn't need to. He could just as easily pleaded guilty to Soliola and not guilty to the Wilkin one - he didn't.

We only see what Sky decide to show us, the RFL get all the other camera angles on it for the disciplinary. Lima has held his hands up and admitted his guilt and taken his punishment, why you and other can't is bizarre.

i'm surprised that phil clarke didn't spot the incident

Too much imo.

Why show respect for it if all our rivals are abusing it? It only serves to weaken us and benefit everyone else.

I get that IL is building up IL’s rep since the mo days but sometimes we bend over backwards to please a body that has a serious agenda against us.

Btw I’ve seen Wakey have got Murphy off the hook. I really don’t see why we haven’t gambled.

It should be a a 4-6 match ban though.

He is guilty and, like the sensible people on here, fans should be breathing a sigh of relief he sin't missing the Wire game (although that would have been very harsh)

I think the fairest outcome was found. Hopefully he will learn. It is all on Lima now. I don't know what will happen if he is found guilty again. Anyone care to enlighten me?

So if you can't work anything out about it and many people on here can't see anything wrong why should we change or opinions based on what Lima says?

Can't disagree with that - it was a sensible outcome, but was actually lenient given the sanctions available and the double guilty plea.


Upper range of the potential sanction I would have thought (3 matches per offence on this occasion).

To be honest if we had appealed i feel we would have lost. That lot would have loved to uphold the ban and add another 1 match for good measure.

I like the way that IL acts even if i do not agree entirely. This kind of situation on serves to build a siege mentality and i would not be surprised if MM used this negativeness to our advantage.

This is a much better situation than having IL looking like that prized chimp Heatherington or the like.

Are you actually being serious? This has got to be a wind-up?

I'd have still gambled knowing the importance of the WCC and a guy like Lima was signed to play a big part in games like this. Apart from Fielden and Hoffman is he not the only player in our squad who has played in a WCC game?

I'd have taken the chance of an extra game added onto his sentence if it meant we got a chance to have him available for the WCC.


A siege mentality can still be fostered if needed. Look at UTD in football or Mourinho’s teams. Neither take stuff like this on the chin.



Heatherington may look like a prized chump BUT he does seem to get his players off the hook and he also seems to have got his wish for the speed of the PTB to be increased.

Do you not think Lima has towed the club line?

Do you honestly believe the BS said in that piece on the website that we are working on his tackling technique or he’s not used to a one ref system. Come off it he’s a seasoned pro and knew what he either was or wasn’t doing. If he’s said stuff like that then why is it impossible that he’s not bluffed other things as well?

The RFL stated in its report that he would receive greater punishment.

So the club would tell Lima to plead guilty to something he wasn't guilty of just so they could increase his chances of being banned for the WCC then.

I really don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Its getting boring this now..

Lima did the tackle,Wilkins cried about it and Lima is out for two games.

lets move on

So do think Lima really thinks he doesn’t know how to tackle or that Madge is working on his technique in training lol? He’s suddenly didn’t know how to play the game with one ref down? He’s also said these things, which sound like a lot of bs and not something any player would say.

Read IL comments on improving the judiciary system and how he’s now happy with the new professional approach and you can simply see IL is blowing smoke up the RFL’s again.

There's something about Lenagan's language that tells me that if the disiplinary is not consistant and fair this year there could well be some challenges raised.

Thats what i get from IL qoutes.

Any p!ss taking from the disiplinary and questions will be asked.

we'll see if things have change when a RFL favourite like Senior or Morley gets pulled up.

1 game at the most, should have had a warning letter and a fine TBH, didn't Cark Ablett appeal his 1 match ban for his elbow on Sam last year and was get off with it? I would have denied the Wilkin one at least.

I was wondering to what extent.

It recommends 2-3 matches. I was wondering if it might increase to 3-4 or 4-5, or whether it would jsut hit the upper limits, so 3 matches.

The RFL didn't specify. But yes, a three match ban (for a single incident) could well be in order. From what the RFL said, they have been lenient this time because he is new over here.

Which no doubt will have factored in our decision not to appeal.

Time to move on from this now and focus on who we have available for the next 2 weeks.

Oh how hurtful to suggest that I am e-squaring up because someone disagrees with me. Next thing you know I will be asking the mods to look at the comment and consider whether it is worthy of a ban or not.

Just reading comments from 2 x certain opposing fans above and you get a feeling they won't be happy until Lima is Hung drawn & quartered!

Despite all the pontificating about "I would hope that all players get treated equally were serious injuries could be caused" type quotes I wonder how many Posts they've made on other sites of clubs were players were penalised and/or charged with the same offence?