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| Quote ="bullman"Can we have Noble back then please?'"
I would imagine he will be at Odsal or the KC in 2010.
Quote ="Morning Glory"I can't see it being a good move short term either, but if the rumours are true we may have no other option.
We seem to have long term and deep rooted culture problems that haven't been fixed by a change of club ownership and numerous changes in coaching and playing staff.
Seems to me like some of the 'constants' at the club could be part of whatever our 'culture problem' is. So, if the rumours are indeed true and Nobby has gone we then replace him as head of our esteemed club with probably one of the club's longest serving 'constants'?'"
Exactly. To me, the whole lot, bar Radlinski need to go.
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| Quote ="jonh"I really hope this to be true, no disrespect to the man he has off the field been part of a very important time for Wigan regards putting systems in place, but has failed on the coaching front.
Interesting the timing of the sacking given recent events.'"
Talk about IL trying to push the in the opposite direction from himself.
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| Quote ="jonh"I really hope this to be true, no disrespect to the man he has off the field been part of a very important time for Wigan regards putting systems in place, but has failed on the coaching front.
Interesting the timing of the sacking given recent events.'"
Very true.
I think he needs to be thanked for all he has done, its just a tragedy that it hasn't worked at first team level. A more hard working guy we could not have had.
But I agree, re the timing.
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| Quote ="jonh"I really hope this to be true, no disrespect to the man he has off the field been part of a very important time for Wigan regards putting systems in place, but has failed on the coaching front.'"
Do we really think he has or are you just trying to be nice ? I have no idea if he as but the youth system was producing players long before he got here. What has he actually put in place? The players darts competition?
Quote Interesting the timing of the sacking given recent events.'"
I will believe it when I see the official announcement.
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| Quote ="DaveO"
I will believe it when I see the official announcement.
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| Flippin 'eck, what kind of week has it been!
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| Right, so if he has gone, we need the British Lions to collaspe and hope the new regieme at Wasps decide they want to jig things around, leading to a certain man looking for a change:
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| Quote ="Glynola"Flippin 'eck, what kind of week has it been!'"
If this is confirmed it must be right up there in the most dramatic weeks in Wigan RLFC's history!
Something had to gove though they way things have been going and hopefully this can be the start of a whole new culture within the club.
Standards need to be raised all across the board.
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| Quote ="Glynola"Flippin 'eck, what kind of week has it been!'"
The biggest, for different reasons, in the clubs recent history.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If this is confirmed it must be right up there in the most dramatic weeks in Wigan RLFC's history!
Something had to gove though they way things have been going and hopefully this can be the start of a whole new culture within the club.
Standards need to be raised all across the board.'"
Yes, I look forward to a year of transition in 2010!
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| If he has gone? I'm sort of glad in a way, however the timing I'm not so sure, surely we could have waited till we got over this Hock saga. Unless the poor performances and now this Hock thing have been the final straw for Lenegan and he's having a real clear out, perhaps a few players out now Ian!
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| Quote ="AJ"Right, so if he has gone, we need the British Lions to collaspe and hope the new regieme at Wasps decide they want to jig things around, leading to a certain man looking for a change:
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Not a chance. He is on a very good wedge with the Welsh RU.
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| Quote ="Glynola"Yes, I look forward to a year of transition in 2010!
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I love transitional years.............we've been having them for over 10 years now
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I love transitional years.............we've been having them for over 10 years now
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Theres no chance we could do well next year anyway. Your all forgetting it's the year of the wolf!
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| Quote ="jonh"So are we saying Noble has actually gone or are you in fact leading me up a path that will ultimately lead to a massive disapointment when he is sat in the stands calling the shots for us at Hull KR?!'"
I look forward to a vast improvement as you promised for the past 3 years once Noble went
Are you the new coach jonh?
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"I look forward to a vast improvement as you promised for the past 3 years once Noble went
Are you the new coach jonh?
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| Quote ="DaveO"I think the general opinion is that Wane is not tarred with the same brush as the other suspects. The number of posts on here about how well the junior sides play and how well he is respected by the junior players suggests to me he isn't part of the problem.
I am not suggesting he be coach long term but I think you are being a bit harsh to dismiss him from a short term appointment because he is also part of the problem.
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You are correct, the junior sides do play well year on year. And year on year we have bright prospects not being able to take the next step up to consistent SL performance. I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job with the juniors, he has, but there's only so far 'toughing up and ripping in' will get you in SL. Sooner rather than later superior skill sets prevail e.g. rewind a few years to when Goulding and Falou were 'on the verge', now track their improvements from there. The decline in academy standards also has a part to play but that's another story as any academy watcher will testify.
Short term, like I say we might not have any other option. As far as the culture goes, if the players off field antics are as commonly known as they are by mere speccies, the back room staff must be privvy to that and then some.
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| Quote ="bullman"Swap you for McNamara?'"
Nah. You can have them both
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| Quote ="bullman"Swap you for McNamara?'"
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| Assuming all this is true....
We know have a HUGE appointment on our hands. I for one am happy for IL to take his time and deliver the right man - Wane to take over for the rest of the season (we're not going to win anything anyway so no particular pressure) and hopefully a new infrastructure to be put in place over the close season.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"god loves a trier!
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"You are correct, the junior sides do play well year on year. And year on year we have bright prospects not being able to take the next step up to consistent SL performance. I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job with the juniors, he has, but there's only so far 'toughing up and ripping in' will get you in SL. Sooner rather than later superior skill sets prevail e.g. rewind a few years to when Goulding and Falou were 'on the verge', now track their improvements from there. The decline in academy standards also has a part to play but that's another story as any academy watcher will testify.'"
Fair enough.
Quote Short term, like I say we might not have any other option. As far as the culture goes, if the players off field antics are as commonly known as they are by mere speccies, the back room staff must be privvy to that and then some.'"
I agree but whether or not all the back room staff are or were in a position to do something about it is another matter. Looking back to when Dean Bell left there were lots of posts on here about that being down to a fundamental disagreement over young players with Noble. If so then if Bell wasn't able to influence the head coach I don't see why we could expect Wane to do so either.
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