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| I think Wire would be the obvious choice again League Leaders Shield holders, Super League Champions and World Club Champions vs Challenge Cup winners makes for a good sell.
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| I think it should not be one of the obvious choices for next year, we have just won the league and could even be world champions next year so we will get huge crowds for Saints, Leeds, Wire, Quins (if they target this game again) and the home opener.
I would certainly say the Hull clubs could be in with a shout.
Like Bilko says it depends who we play around July. If wire or Leeds are one of those then it's a no brainer.
Leeds would be a great choice because of the games from this season and we could up the crowd from around 18k to maybe even a sell-out.
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| Quote ="jonh"I think Wire would be the obvious choice again League Leaders Shield holders, Super League Champions and World Club Champions vs Challenge Cup winners makes for a good sell.'"
Isnt that a good sell without making it the big one? Surely the idea is to take a game that would get an average crowd and make it into a big crowd.
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| Hull KR for me.
Top club with a large and vocal support.
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| Date will decide it, with the best July fixture likely to get chosen - but basically, for any other club, playing Wigan will be The Big One next season.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Isnt that a good sell without making it the big one? Surely the idea is to take a game that would get an average crowd and make it into a big crowd.'"
Agreed.
A team like Hull KR with excellent away support would be ideal, (make it Sat 6pm) so we could take advantage of their support. 19k Wigan fans, 4k Hull KR fans.
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| Quote ="Boudicca"but basically, for any other club, playing Wigan will be The Big One next season.
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| It was only two years ago we played Leeds, how they mocked us for having the nerve to market our game 'The Big One'.
How times change.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Agreed.
A team like Hull KR with excellent away support would be ideal, (make it Sat 6pm) so we could take advantage of their support. 19k Wigan fans, 4k Hull KR fans.'"
Couldnt agrue with that one. Hull KR would make a good choice...
But I do agree with others, the date will be one of the biggest factors.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Couldnt agrue with that one. Hull KR would make a good choice...
But I do agree with others, the date will be one of the biggest factors.'"
the date will be THE factor.........not much use in march
lok at 1 and 2...........
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i think well find the biggest home game close to those dates, then let the marketing team loose
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"icon_lol.gif'"
I suspect you're still getting used to hollow laughter.
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I'm sure Now you've got what You wished for and Royce Simmons is in Charge you'll be laughing a lot more next season?
I am already!
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| depending on how they go early on i think it would be cool to promote the Big One as Wigan V Bradford it would be good to see a competitive Bulls side again.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"depending on how they go early on i think it would be cool to promote the Big One as Wigan V Bradford it would be good to see a competitive Bulls side again.'"
It would, but I can't see it happening next year, with the signings they've made so far.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I'm sure Now you've got what You wished for and Royce Simmons is in Charge you'll be laughing a lot more next season?
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Any chance of that email you spoke about the other night?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I'm sure Now you've got what You wished for and Royce Simmons is in Charge you'll be laughing a lot more next season?
I am already!
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Simmons began coaching in 1992 for St Marys reserve grade side. The following year he moved to England to coach Hull FC for two seasons
Simmons went on to become Panthers coach in the closing stages of the 1994 NSWRL season after Phil Gould was dismissed, and served for seven seasons until he was himself sacked from the position after the 2001 NRL season, when the Panthers won the wooden spoon. The Panthers made the finals twice under Simmons' tenure, in the 1997 Super League finals and National Rugby League season 2000 finals.
Since 2003, Simmons has served as the assistant coach at the Wests Tigers under his former coach Tim Sheens.
Simmons has been named to take over the coaching position at St Helens in 2011.
Hardly a "glittering" coaching career is it?
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| Quote ="21-12"Simmons began coaching in 1992 for St Marys reserve grade side. The following year he moved to England to coach Hull FC for two seasons
Simmons went on to become Panthers coach in the closing stages of the 1994 NSWRL season after Phil Gould was dismissed, and served for seven seasons until he was himself sacked from the position after the 2001 NRL season, when the Panthers won the wooden spoon. The Panthers made the finals twice under Simmons' tenure, in the 1997 Super League finals and National Rugby League season 2000 finals.
Since 2003, Simmons has served as the assistant coach at the Wests Tigers under his former coach Tim Sheens.
Simmons has been named to take over the coaching position at St Helens in 2011.
Hardly a "glittering" coaching career is it? icon_lol.gif
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Don't forget his time with the Australian National side.
Same could be said of your coach before he came over here.
So we shall just have to wait and see.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Quote ="21-12"Simmons began coaching in 1992 for St Marys reserve grade side. The following year he moved to England to coach Hull FC for two seasons
Simmons went on to become Panthers coach in the closing stages of the 1994 NSWRL season after Phil Gould was dismissed, and served for seven seasons until he was himself sacked from the position after the 2001 NRL season, when the Panthers won the wooden spoon. The Panthers made the finals twice under Simmons' tenure, in the 1997 Super League finals and National Rugby League season 2000 finals.
Since 2003, Simmons has served as the assistant coach at the Wests Tigers under his former coach Tim Sheens.
Simmons has been named to take over the coaching position at St Helens in 2011.
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Don't forget his time with the Australian National side.
Same could be said of your coach before he came over here.
So we shall just have to wait and see.'"
The major difference is Madge was 35/36 when he came and has won the League and Grand Final in his first year.
Simmons was a similar age when he first came to England and didn't win anything with Hull.
18 years later he is obviously more experienced, but is he better? Or is he past his best? As you say, time will tell...!! I suspect he may be a bit on the old side. Wayne Bennett is the exception to the rule - in the modern game I would say that 35-45/50 max are a coach's best years.
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| I don't buy the argument that the Big One should be aimed at a fixture we don't ususally get a big crowd for to try and make it so. Wigan v Hull KR hardly gets you fired up weeks or months ahead of the fixture & I doubt the public would go for that like they did the previous 2. There's only 2 clubs we can do it against in my opinion, not Saints obviously as that doesn't need any extra hype. The 2 are Leeds & Wire. Two big fixtures that the club would aim to make massive fixtures with a marketing push. I'd go for Wigan/Leeds, Clash of the Rugby Gods. Big One 2.
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| Hull kr game for me and have a pic of fielden and mason nose to nose
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| Quote ="king warrior"Hull kr game for me and have a pic of fielden and mason nose to nose
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Is he still coming over ?, whats happening about the 'allegations' ?
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On" I'd go for Wigan/Leeds, Clash of the Rugby Gods. Big One 2.'"
Wouldn't it be The Big One 3 this time?
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Is he still coming over ?, whats happening about the 'allegations' ?'" First i've heard whats gone on?
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"I don't buy the argument that the Big One should be aimed at a fixture we don't ususally get a big crowd for to try and make it so. Wigan v Hull KR hardly gets you fired up weeks or months ahead of the fixture & I doubt the public would go for that like they did the previous 2. There's only 2 clubs we can do it against in my opinion, not Saints obviously as that doesn't need any extra hype. The 2 are Leeds & Wire. Two big fixtures that the club would aim to make massive fixtures with a marketing push. I'd go for Wigan/Leeds, Clash of the Rugby Gods. Big One 2.'"
I agree with the principle but the Mason factor, rightly or wrongly, has massive marketing potential.
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Wouldn't it be The Big One 3 this time?'"
I meant the 2nd one against Leeds
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