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| Quote ="Petedawarrior"With wigan they aint given time'"
Noble was.
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| i wonder how long it'll be before we get sections of fans calling for him to be sacked?
lets wait and see if hes up to it and let the results do the talking, and not him.
"anyone can promise, but not everyone can deliver" (WPM 2009)
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Whats expected of him in his first season like will he be expected to do what Noble couldn't and get to a final or will he be given time?'"
Lenagan will give him time especially given he's his own choice.
As for expectations from the fans I think everybody just wants to see a change in terms of commitment. The Wigan public can handle losing(we've got used to it) but what they can't handle is losing limply with the players looking like they couldn't give a to*s.
I want to see a totally committed team every week and i want to see a team that looks like it's putting in the hard yards on the training field. If that still isn't good enough because the other sides have been better then fair enough.
Shaun Wane has said he believes they can get 20% more out of alot of our current players......................i think they can get even more then that out of a couple.
Just look at the change in attitude Tony Smith brought about at Wire in such a short space of time! The trophy was a bonus whereas the preformences they started to get out of the likes of King, Monaghan, Briers etc showed he'd got a commitment from them to improve and that he'd given them confidence.
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| Quote ="Petedawarrior"With wigan they aint given time'"
Noble failed to significantly improve the on field performances over 3 and a half years, in fact I would say we never improved and never consistently matched the form we showed once he took over.
I would not have Brian Noble anywhere near this Wigan squad, for several reasons firstly the performance aspect of things which has not been good enough, and secondly for his recruitment policy of supporting coaches, which was and is being shown up now as totally inadequate. I also think many players were not "coached" and showed little improvement over his time in charge, simply lacked flexibility.
I hope he has learned a thing or 2 from his time at Wigan with regard to this side of things or his time at Celtic could be short lived which would surely end his career as a top flight coach.
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| There seems to be a positive vibe throughout the club and fans which hasn't been there for the past god knows how many years, I'm genuinly excited about next season, it can't come quick enough
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Fitness generally ok apart from "one or two".
I wonder who he means?'"
I think we all came to are own conclusions on that one.
After listening to him you can certainly see why he wants so many trial games, he obviously wants to give everyone a fair crack of the whip and that ties in with not handing out squad numbers till later on making players earn the right for a 1 to 13 shirt.
You can tell as well that one of his main priority and coaching philosophy is the focus on fitness, which should stand us in good stead. Three sessions a day five days a week should reap plenty of rewards later in the season.
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| Quote ="Pemps"You are, of course, entitled to your opinion but you're wrong
Noble was given 3+ years and still didn't build a consistent team. All the players in that squad were signed or re-signed by him and IL. He'd had his time.
Maguire wouldn't have left one of the best clubs in Australia to come and be an assistant in SL. It makes no sense, particularly when he's being touted for head coaches positions over there.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I literally laughed out loud when i heard him say that.
Him and Wane sound like they're going to flog them
If any of them don't like it they should be left out of the side until they toe the line.
I liked Wane saying it'll be tough but fun............exactly what it should be.'"
If I was one of the players, I'd be really excited by the challenge of the pre-season.
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| Quote ="Petedawarrior"With wigan they aint given time'"
3 yrs enough for any 1
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Cheeky git pinching my avatar btw.
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Was looking round for one on Google earlier on and stumbled across it................thought it looked familier
I'll change it to Fui Fui Moi Moi or James Graham when they sign next week
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Lenagan will give him time especially given he's his own choice.
As for expectations from the fans I think everybody just wants to see a change in terms of commitment. The Wigan public can handle losing(we've got used to it) but what they can't handle is losing limply with the players looking like they couldn't give a to*s.
I want to see a totally committed team every week and i want to see a team that looks like it's putting in the hard yards on the training field. If that still isn't good enough because the other sides have been better then fair enough.
Shaun Wane has said he believes they can get 20% more out of alot of our current players......................i think they can get even more then that out of a couple.
Just look at the change in attitude Tony Smith brought about at Wire in such a short space of time! The trophy was a bonus whereas the preformences they started to get out of the likes of King, Monaghan, Briers etc showed he'd got a commitment from them to improve and that he'd given them confidence.'"
We just needed a class coach and a fresh start to bring out the best in the players we had I reckon Wigan will do better under MM am not saying Noble was a crap coach but sometimes you just need a fresh start.
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| Warriors video not loading at all Sky video loaded straight away anyone else having problems
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| Quote ="Wire_85"We just needed a class coach and a fresh start to bring out the best in the players we had I reckon Wigan will do better under MM am not saying Noble was a crap coach but sometimes you just need a fresh start.'"
We seemed to have gone stale under Noble. When he took over us we were in a far worse position then Wire found themselves in last year and if we'd been in a similar state Nobby might have guided us to a trophy pretty quickly but the rebuilding job was huge.
He got us so far and then everything seemed to stall. I think everybody at Wigan should be grateful to him though as he's left us some pretty solid foundations to build on.
Next year should be a really good season. Leeds and Saints will be there or therabouts and i'm expecting big improvments from Wire, Wigan, Hull, Bradford and Catalans aswell as the continued improvment of Hudds, Wakey and Hull KR.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"We just needed a class coach and a fresh start to bring out the best in the players we had I reckon Wigan will do better under MM am not saying Noble was a crap coach but sometimes you just need a fresh start.'"
I think most teams need the same thing.
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| [urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Maguire-takes-the-hot-seat.5830804.jp[/url
Recorded interview with him at the top of the page.
If you can get it working, it's a bit touchy when using chrome.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"[urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Maguire-takes-the-hot-seat.5830804.jp[/url
Recorded interview with him at the top of the page.
If you can get it working, it's a bit touchy when using chrome.'"
Can't get it to work in Safari either and I've got Flip4Mac so that wmv files work.
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No Problem working in Firefox.'"
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| I am very impressed, and feel tumescent at the thought of the forthcoming season....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I am very impressed, and feel tumescent at the thought of the forthcoming season....
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Stop popping the Viagra then.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I think everybody at Wigan should be grateful to him though as he's left us some pretty solid foundations to build on.'"
I am always sceptical to this theory Brian Noble has laid down 'solid foundations' for Mike MaGuire to build from. I think it is just an over used cliche. The main message I seem to be getting from the management, and one of the main reasons supporters are feeling optimistic, is the change of culture going on around the club. Also it's not like we're keeping the same staff either - we've had a complete overhaul from top to bottom at the club in that department. We're hearing of new structures, set plays and methods from Mike MaGuire - nothing about building on from what Noble has done. I fail to see what/where these solid foundations are.
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| Quote ="cadoo"I am always sceptical to this theory Brian Noble has laid down 'solid foundations' for Mike MaGuire to build from. I think it is just an over used cliche. The main message I seem to be getting from the management, and one of the main reasons supporters are feeling optimistic, is the change of culture going on around the club. Also it's not like we're keeping the same staff either - we've had a complete overhaul from top to bottom at the club in that department. We're hearing of new structures, set plays and methods from Mike MaGuire - nothing about building on from what Noble has done. I fail to see what/where these solid foundations are.'"
He did say we had got great facilities
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| Quote ="cadoo"I am always sceptical to this theory Brian Noble has laid down 'solid foundations' for Mike MaGuire to build from. I think it is just an over used cliche. The main message I seem to be getting from the management, and one of the main reasons supporters are feeling optimistic, is the change of culture going on around the club. Also it's not like we're keeping the same staff either - we've had a complete overhaul from top to bottom at the club in that department. We're hearing of new structures, set plays and methods from Mike MaGuire - nothing about building on from what Noble has done. I fail to see what/where these solid foundations are.'"
Facilities
Reserve and academy have improved although it's not all down to Noble
Noble took us from bottom of the table to finishing 3rd 3 years on the bounce
The club is in a much better state than 2005 and 2006, MaGuire would have a much tougher job if he was taking it from there.
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