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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"“Wigan week” haha. Wire fans seem far more excited for the game than Wigan do. I think we’ll lose... again, but would be less surprised if we won than I was when we lost to London.'"
You can be cool about it...no issue.
It's always a big thing for us to play Wigan. There's no shame in saying that.
In reply I'd have been shocked if you beat London. I predicted a loss. I really struggle to see where the wins are going to come.
This current Wigan squad is weaker than the Warrington and Leeds squads that finished the season in the middle 8s imo.
Beware, Wire and Leeds went through the season thinking form will turn next week!
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| Hardaker
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That would be my back line. I wouldn’t trust Escaré on the wing or FB, he’s not good enough under the high ball.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You can be cool about it...no issue.
It's always a big thing for us to play Wigan. There's no shame in saying that.
In reply I'd have been shocked if you beat London. I predicted a loss. I really struggle to see where the wins are going to come.
This current Wigan squad is weaker than the Warrington and Leeds squads that finished the season in the middle 8s imo.
Beware, Wire and Leeds went through the season thinking form will turn next week!'"
I don’t buy that tbh, I’m not worried about where the wins are going to come from once things click. I may be wrong but fans and the media are too emotive and quick to react when things go well or go poorly. Didn’t Warrington start least year terribly with everyone saying you’ll end up in the Middle 8’s. Two finals later and all is forgotten.
A strong team on paper doesn’t necessarily mean a winning team, you of all should know that. The Wigan team, whilst not playing well at the minute, is littered with multiple Grand Final, Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winners. You don’t become a bad team overnight so no need to worry just yet.
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"I don’t buy that tbh, I’m not worried about where the wins are going to come from once things click. I may be wrong but fans and the media are too emotive and quick to react when things go well or go poorly. Didn’t Warrington start least year terribly with everyone saying you’ll end up in the Middle 8’s. Two finals later and all is forgotten.
A strong team on paper doesn’t necessarily mean a winning team, you of all should know that. The Wigan team, whilst not playing well at the minute, is littered with multiple Grand Final, Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winners. You don’t become a bad team overnight so no need to worry just yet.'"
Price concentrated on defence for first the month as our spine had only just returned from England duty and had little game time together.
We were doing nothing other than 5 drives and a kick for that period.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Price concentrated on defence for first the month as our spine had only just returned from England duty and had little game time together.
We were doing nothing other than 5 drives and a kick for that period.'"
Sorry, not sure I get your point? We have a 1 who hadn’t played for a year and a half, a 6 who’s been on England duty, a new 7 and a 9 who’s been away to PNG with the Knights. Like it did with you last year, it will take a little while for things to click.
I’ve seen enough in the Saints game and the WCC to know the quality is there. Just a case of getting it to show consistently.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"No I read this forum often.
My enhanced posting is down to Wigan week, not so much Wigan's poor form....but the posts about it are worth a read.'"
You have consistently posted well before Warrington/Wigan week, I remember replying to a comment of yours after the London game. I totally understand banter of the rivalry kind but I couldn't imagine spending as much time as you obviously do offering input, commenting and antagonizing fans of another team on their own forum. I start to wonder what a uninspiring life you must lead if you have so much time to be on a forum of another team that you clearly don't support. After the Huddersfield loss I got home and when I saw this forum the top 6 threads were all last commented on by you
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| I can can count on fingers and toes ahead of you playing london.
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"I don’t buy that tbh, I’m not worried about where the wins are going to come from once things click. I may be wrong but fans and the media are too emotive and quick to react when things go well or go poorly. Didn’t Warrington start least year terribly with everyone saying you’ll end up in the Middle 8’s. Two finals later and all is forgotten.
A strong team on paper doesn’t necessarily mean a winning team, you of all should know that. The Wigan team, whilst not playing well at the minute, is littered with multiple Grand Final, Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winners. You don’t become a bad team overnight so no need to worry just yet.'"
To some extent I agree with you. However sport is littered with successful clubs that when influential players and staff leave they have a period of what is considered underperformance. When such changes occur there is often an emotional effect that impinges on the team's performance as well as it being physically weakened. Add to this the temporary nature of your present appointment and the anticipation of 2020. All this works against a successful 2019.
Lamm may turn things around but his statements do not inspire a feeling that he has things in hand and a plan to make progress. This again will only add to the players apparently lack of confidence.
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| Have you seen the fixture list why do we play Salford away twice, in two weeks time and then on Easter Monday.
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| I think, barring injury, Lam needs to establish who's his starting 6 and 7, and given them game time to work with the team. Chopping and changing each week won't allow the halves to bed in and develop strong communication with their runners and linking up with the FB.
I can't see anyone else coming in during the 2019 season, so it's time for him to name his halves and give them time.
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| Interesting to see tickets for Warrington fans being sold in our end. Been plenty of trouble last few years there and can’t see any different especially if we win
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Interesting to see tickets for Warrington fans being sold in our end. Been plenty of trouble last few years there and can’t see any different especially if we win'"
Assume that means there won't be many of us there
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Assume that means there won't be many of us there
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Sold 750-1000 apparently, I’ll be there but sad to see how fickle our fans are, I know we are in a rut but these are the type of games you should always want to go to.
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| I was considering giving it a swerve but sat there in the week and thought to myself that if I can’t turn up when we’re struggling then I shouldn’t turn up when we’re going well.
I hope it’s one of those games where the people who stay away regret doing so.
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Sold 750-1000 apparently, I’ll be there but sad to see how fickle our fans are, I know we are in a rut but these are the type of games you should always want to go to.'"
First to admit I can't get to every game inc home fixtures but those figures are pretty disappointing for a local derby.
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| Well shoot me now, but I'm one of those who will be watching on TV. And I hope Nicky is right, and I'll regret not going. And like, I imagine, a few of us, I'd be happier with at least a fighting (not literally!) performance even if we do go down. But we were comfortably beaten by a pretty poor Giants side last week, and our defence remains a real worry. Might make the trip to Salford, though, especially if the weather is bit better for the bike.
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| The thing is, if you keep going regardless, Lenegan wont take the hint that we need better quality signings and quick! Sometimes you have to vote with your feet. The amount of top class talent this club has lost and not replaced over the last few years is ridiculous and the standard of performances has been declining by the year only to be papered over with Wanes ability to get an extra 10% out of some very average players at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"The thing is, if you keep going regardless, Lenegan wont take the hint that we need better quality signings and quick! Sometimes you have to vote with your feet. The amount of top class talent this club has lost and not replaced over the last few years is ridiculous and the standard of performances has been declining by the year only to be papered over with Wanes ability to get an extra 10% out of some very average players at the end of the year.'"
I respect your opinion and can see where you’re coming from but personally I’ll always attend as many games as I can, I watch Wigan because I love the club and always will, i don’t go to watch us lift a shiny trophy in August or October that’s just a bonus that has regularly come whilst watching Wigan
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| Quote ="moto748"Well shoot me now, but I'm one of those who will be watching on TV. And I hope Nicky is right, and I'll regret not going. And like, I imagine, a few of us, I'd be happier with at least a fighting (not literally!) performance even if we do go down. But we were comfortably beaten by a pretty poor Giants side last week, and our defence remains a real worry. Might make the trip to Salford, though, especially if the weather is bit better for the bike.'"
Not having a dig at anyone who decides not to go, it’s people’s personal choice and one I seriously considered myself but in the end I decided I’d get down there and hopefully see the start of the turnaround.
The one thing you’ll always get from the Wigan support is passion and even if that’s people voting with their feet then it’s because people care about the overall situation. We really need a pick me up soon though to start getting people back on side.
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| I don’t subscribe to the ‘vote with your feet’ mentality at all. If attendances keep dropping it’s hardly going to motivate the chairman to splash out more than he has to is it? I still think he’s a Wigan fan as well as a businessman and he wants the best for the club. I still trust him to run the club well and I have enough faith in him and the current squad to turn this season around. If players see crowds dwindling week on week it’s not going to improve their confidence. We talk about supporting the club through thick and thin and it seems some of our fans will only support a winning team. I find it quite sad at times.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"I don’t subscribe to the ‘vote with your feet’ mentality at all. If attendances keep dropping it’s hardly going to motivate the chairman to splash out more than he has to is it? I still think he’s a Wigan fan as well as a businessman and he wants the best for the club. I still trust him to run the club well and I have enough faith in him and the current squad to turn this season around. If players see crowds dwindling week on week it’s not going to improve their confidence. We talk about supporting the club through thick and thin and it seems some of our fans will only support a winning team. I find it quite sad at times.'"
Disagree. Actions always speak louder than words. People can whine and moan all day and as long as they keep turning their cash over to the club IL etc will be happy. Making a statement is way more effective. Plus, why should fans be expected to pay their hard earned cash on dross? They shouldn't. Sport is a form of entertainment, escapism for some, if they want our money, then they should earn it.
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| I see this game is being promoted as 'bad blood' so does this mean Warrington are now numero uno rival for Wigan thesedays?
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"I see this game is being promoted as 'bad blood' so does this mean Warrington are now numero uno rival for Wigan thesedays?'"
I see it as them blaming us for ruining "their year" a few times...it is one sided bad blood
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"I see this game is being promoted as 'bad blood' so does this mean Warrington are now numero uno rival for Wigan thesedays?'"
It's warringtons PR, don't think its anything to do with us. I'm guessing its because we keep beating them in finals. I dont quite understand it myself but its selling tickets apparently and thats what its supposed to do.
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| I don't think Warrington ever have beaten Wigan in a final, except the Lancs cup when Wigan was in division 2 ..the worst win lose ratio by some margin....yet we have the best away win record against you than any other team in history.
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