The way I took it from the fans forum was:

If Noble wants a player and Lenegan says we can't afford him we don't get him.

On the flip side if Lenegan wants a player and Noble doesn't want him we don't get him.

So basically it sounds like they both have to like the player and he has to be 'affordable'.

The only issue here is what is deemed to be 'affordable' because it the moment we just seem to sign squad fillers and no one of any real world class quality. I know the squad has to have balance but for me I would sacrifice two average players such as Mathers and Coley for example to bring in a world class prop/centre/stand off.

This is the problem that seems to be coming up with IL, everyone we sign seems to be a cheap version, on some kind of deal that benefits the club.

Yes, it has finally given us a big squad, but we now have more numbers than quality.

Not seen the squad yet for this week but heard a whisper sam is in the 17

From who?

I do not see any way that he cannot be, well apart from the fact our coach seems hell bent against it, but in the current circumstances there really is no other option.

Mathers?

Where do we play him? 1, 6, or 9?



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In all seriousness, with Riddell lacking fitness and McIllorum banned, Sam has to come in on the bench. With the pressure on Noble as it is, O'Loughlin to 6 isn't going to help in the overall relation to what we might achieve.

Is Sam a 6 or a 7?

If B.N. picks sam tomkins and or shaun Ainscough will he get the credit for doing so, as it seems to me he can't really win which ever choices he may make. I'm not B.N, biggest fan but if he does choose to play sam and shaun then it goes against his whole ethos of rugby league being to expansive , brave call either way for me .

if BN doesnt inc Sam Tomkins then he really has lost the plot

Agreed.

It's not worked so far leaving him out has it?

I thought he had a relatively quiet game but Eastmond was very poor.

He will go in at scrum half tommy going to hooker were he is at his most dangerous

If only that will be the case, let's hope it is

Sams in the squad

Tomkins should be left where he is for now.
Quins away is never easy and we don't want to give them extra targets to aim for than they've got already. No point either as we play Bradford next week and Leeds the following game and he isn't going to play in those.
Play him off the bench v Salford away the week after Leeds.
One or two may need a rest and that's when Tomkins should be introduced.
A good away game where we may well win and if we don't the boo boys don't travel so he won't have to put up with that on his debut.

as much as i want to see him play why have i got a bad feelin he will play locky at 6 in spells and tommy switching between 7 and 9

Our team is missing a stand-off more than anything else at this moment. He will do the job nicely.



We've already discussed this at some length on another thread. He can't play at Quins cos its tricky. You didn't think he should play against Cas cos they have a big pack (smaller than Salfords by the way), etc. Sam has been a target in every game he's played and he'll be a target in every game he plays for the remainder of his career, so should we not play him at all?



So if we look completely clueless in attack again this week, do we just hope for the best against Leeds and Bradford? This is the game to play him in because if he can come in and organise the attack and we look like we know what we're doing then he is a must for the Bradford and Leeds games.



Need a rest? FFS! Who would need a rest after 6 matches? They might be looking for new clubs or adjusting to a new coach but they sure as hell shouldn't need a rest. What we need is some organisation and inspiration.



There will always be some idiots who boo at matches. I understand their frustration but if they think it will motivate a team that is playing badly then they're morons. Booing an under performing team is like pouring petrol on a fire to try and extinguish it.

A coach can't select his side on whether or not they can cope with being booed off.

Starting the game?

I would not go that far but he appears to be our best option sadly, although i would perhaps like to see J. Tomkins given a run there, he is never a centre in a million years but given our current situation i think he would shore up the defence and also offer much more going forward.

Just thinking out of the box a little.

Or, play Bailey, a man who has played centre before, in the centre & leave Joel in the back row, where he is going well.

Why not put Lockers in the Joel to LF at least Lockers is willing to off load Bailey wont then i would start Sam at 6 and Tommy at 7 then move tommy to 9 and bring Smith off the bench to 7. That might work

6 Sam
7 Smith

9 Riddell

Tommy off the bench with Hock, Feka & Pryce. What impact!

sounds ok to me

Eastmond was playing with an undiagnosed dislocated shoulder at the end of last year.

i thought he did.
wasnt it one of his conditions upon taking the job??

ok, he was left with a lot of millwards squad, but its mostly his now.