That'll be nothing we're not used to after last Saturday (and then the story hadn't even broken).

Ritchie how has SW been undermined in this instance? I would like to think that SW has handed his ticket in because the club did nothing about the incident when it occurred several weeks ago.
If ST cannot understand some of the reactions (some a little OTT for me) then he needs to wake up and go and talk to a few fans to understand the sheer frustrations currently smothering the fan base. He probably cant be d though.

I thought the same Itchy, but the surfeit of Wane haters won't see it that way...

Incorrect. If SW genuinely felt the lack of immediate punishment for JT & ST was enough to warrant his resignation, then why would he continue to select them both? If he felt that strongly about it, surely he would drop them, it would be a little fickle if he called it a day but continued to select the pair responsible for his decision? Unless of course he isn't the one selecting the team



From the limited information I have, it appears SW wanted a number of things to happen this year, Liam Watts as FPN's replacement is "apparently" the biggest one and it only made matters worse when Powell signed him at Cas, the fall-out led to him quite selfishly wanting to announce he was leaving on his terms rather than at the end of the season. In this instance, the fact the powers-that-be have suspended Joel T for the next month and made the Sam T situation difficult will certainly have irritated SW immensely.

Looks to me like Wane and KR were compliant in the cover-up, and IL due to taking his eye off the ball was unaware.

I doubt when the Landlord rang the club to complain he was put straight through to Joel or Sam.

All speculation though, let's see how the week pans out.

Tony Callaghan the owner of the "15's" chain of pubs is a big Wigan fan and club sponsor. He would no doubt have Sam and Joels phone numbers.

Interesting stuff Richie.
Maybe SW was told he had to select them both - he wouldn't be the first or last coach to be in that predicament.

I haven't always supported SW with his tactics or lack of kicking game but I have always had him down as a good honest bloke and in the "old school" when it comes to how a guy treats a girl. I think one of his daughters is a manager of a bar so he would know a can cause issues for staff particularly female staff. I would be very disappointed and a little surprised if he was complicit in anyway in this disappointing saga. I am sure that there is more to come from this episode.

Watts would have been a good signing for me and Im disappointed that he didn't end up at the club.

Only on page 9 down here in London town

Really? There's still people out there who don't realise that once you've posted something it's out of your control? A youngish girl at that? We must live in very different worlds Dave!

I tend to agree with you on both points.

Very much how I (and, I would imagine, nearly all Wigan fans) view Shaun Wane.

I would like to think that with the service he was given the club, he should be able to walk away with his head held high. It would be a real shame if this tawdry affair were to tarnish that.

Wire fan here.

Not a great incident but also not the end of the world. It was cringeworthy and Joel particularly should be ashamed (and apparently is)

What is impressive to me, an outsider is how fans on this forum and the club have reacted.

The situation is largely diffused as far as the public is concerned now, and any action over and above what he got will be metered by the club.

It feels swift and appropriate by Wigan RLFC.

Couldn't have asked for more in my humble opinion.

is 4-5 weeks swift ?
it was when it came to the public eye, as for the punishment maybe they are waiting to see what the public says before it goes further, I would say that both have had severe fines defiantly

Out of interest, What did Hull do to Albert Kelly after the McDonald incident? Would you not think they are very similar ?

Well you were the one saying she did not delete the video which implied to me it was you who didn't realise that was unimportant given once its out there you aint getting it back

I think she likely didn't realise she'd lost control of it given someone said she was mortified it got out after she deleted it. Her apparent shock that it got out implies no, she didn't realise it was out of her control.

If there is anything in this paid a grand to delete it allegation she isn't the only one daft enough not to realise once there is a video of an incident these days it's only a matter of time before it shows up on-line.

This will be my 1st post in 4 years.

I read approx 66%/75% of posts up to press and what really jumps out is how saddened the vast majority of Wigan fans are by this, I'd go as far as to say ashamed by association.

But two questions I would like to know even if one can only ever be pure speculative.

1 . When will the our games governing body get involved and punish players/teams that bring the games name into disrepute. If this was down under the NRL may of already taken action.

2. To all those who are quick to criticise the girl who did start filming these drunken upstarts where do you think the situation would of ended up at had she not?
We can see for ourselves that Sam cools his behaviour somewhat, if she had not held the phone up and both brothers carried on would we be now talking of a more serious crime ?

At times we need to thank our lucky stars the media treats us like a minority, if this had been two Man Utd 1st team players it would be front page for days.

Harassment of people doing their job is a no no, whoever you think you are

I’ve got to be honest now and say is it just time we now put this behind us and get on with supporting the club?

The investigation is on going and I expect Joel to be shown the door to be totally honest. I also expect another sanction for Sam although I haven’t a clue in what capacity it would be.

If we turn it on v Wakefield this will be almost forgotten about.

We’ve had our say, we’ve had our critique. Let’s get back behind the club again.

I agree. But they need to make it happen against Wakey. If they don't, lots of people are going to be very angry all over again.

Probably had to be collected out of his shoes using a sponge.

Absolutely

I agree with your 2nd point Dave. In fairness no one seems to know if it's true or, if it is, who paid it so I'll refrain from commenting until we do.

My first point was more relating to the fact I very much doubt she was either shocked or gutted it got out. I seriously doubt anyone with a smartphone or access to the Internet is unaware how these things work. In fact, I think that she explicitly says during the video "it's not my career that's going to be ruined" (sic) confirms without doubt that she knows exactly how this is likely to play out.

Lol...post of the week!

Thats probably worse than what Tweedledum Joel said Hardaker was the only one in the Cas team doing it and thats why they ostracised him and backed the board who sacked him.

And Cas had the balls to sack Zac. Guess who signed him?

What about the old lad he abused?