|
![](images/sitelogos/2022-28.jpg) |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 7786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sgtwilko"thought sinfield and mcguire played and kicked well! thought myler did most of the kicking that was poor! but thought a lot of pressure that was put on our kickers came from roby who simply has crap dummy half distribution
Thought roby, Moore, graham, burgess, Westwood, shenton, myler and briscoe were the players that really need to have a look at themselves.'"
None of the Leeds players then? That's a Surprise!
And you have the Nerve to say the previous poster knows Nothing about RL!
MCGuire was anonymous and his kicking game was terrible!
The 3/4qtrs received almost Zero ball from him and he didn't dictate The game like a Half back should it wasn't until Sinfield moved himself closer to the action 2nd half did we slightly improve.
Myler was anonymous 1st half but at least "Slightly" better second although that's not saying much!
FWIW based on Smith's other selections I find it baffling that he hasn't selected Burrows in the squad as maybe as a 3 they play better?
And there's nobody going to convince me that the squad wouldn't be better with Burrows/Gleeson/Pryce & JJB in it!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20477 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Don't be silly.
Everything in the garden is rosy.
The CC is working.
RL in this country has never been better.
We are awash with talent, and if some defect to RU then so be it, we have more than enough to replace them.'"
Fully agree Brett, see my Well done RFL post.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16170 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Grimmy"Must have been at the other end of the pitch to me, went straight down every time I saw him take it in. The only time I noticed him looking dangrerous was when he ran a great line but over ran the pass, spilling the ball as a result, would have scored for sure if he'd timed it better. Having said that he's a good player on the back of a good season so I wouldn't drop him.'"
He didn't play too well last night in the first half. He was so upset with himself when he mistimed his run for the try. But I think you have been a bit too harsh there. He improved in the second half and made metres. He's bound to go down eventually. He's not Moi Moi. (although even Moi Moi surrenders to tackles sometimes!) He is a ball carrying prop, there to distribute as well as make metres and some of his passes were excellent.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29870 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sgtwilko"thought sinfield and mcguire played and kicked well! thought myler did most of the kicking that was poor! but thought a lot of pressure that was put on our kickers came from roby who simply has crap dummy half distribution
Thought roby, Moore, graham, burgess, Westwood, shenton, myler and briscoe were the players that really need to have a look at themselves.'"
Take it your joking?
McGuire and Sinfield had stinkers bar a 10minute spell at the start of the 2nd half when Sinfield pulled himself together.
Not saying i disagree with the other names mentioned bar maybe Graham and Shenton who i thought did ok-ish. If Graham could have held onto the ball he'd have been doing alot better.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7574 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2013 | Feb 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Grimmy"Must have been at the other end of the pitch to me, went straight down every time I saw him take it in. The only time I noticed him looking dangrerous was when he ran a great line but over ran the pass, spilling the ball as a result, would have scored for sure if he'd timed it better. Having said that he's a good player on the back of a good season so I wouldn't drop him.'"
Graham look more dangerous than any of our forwards lastnight. and he didnt go straight down from every tackle.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29870 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="wigan_knight"Graham look more dangerous than any of our forwards lastnight. and he didnt go straight down from every tackle.'"
Bar one or 2 errors i thought Graham was pretty good last night. A couple of players made him look abit of an idiot(Burgess was one) by dropping perfect passes Graham had thrown to them to put them through gaps.
He should start next week.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7069 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2023 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="wigan_knight"Graham look more dangerous than any of our forwards lastnight. and he didnt go straight down from every tackle.'" Thought it was a night for the old guard really, peacock Morley and ellis stood out for me! if anything it looked like graham was trying too hard which can gave the reverse effect at time. you could see there was a lot of personal frustration in his performance. I said graham needed to have a look at himself, well that's not always a bad thing. a little more composure would see him kick on again imo
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 508 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2010 | Oct 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Oh dear
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 508 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2010 | Oct 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Well its been on all day with no responses and it slipped onto page 2
How odd! I'm sure all you knowledgeable (icon_surprised.gifopsicon_smile.gif folk who posted on this thread would have made sure it was 40 pages long by now if Sinfield was the player you made out
He puts in a sensational performance against the World Champions and nobody has anything to say. I suppose your silence says it all!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 330 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2011 | Apr 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="RescuedBlue"Well its been on all day with no responses and it slipped onto page 2
How odd! I'm sure all you knowledgeable (icon_surprised.gifopsicon_smile.gif folk who posted on this thread would have made sure it was 40 pages long by now if Sinfield was the player you made out
He puts in a sensational performance against the World Champions and nobody has anything to say. I suppose your silence says it all!'"
He played well from dummy half. Crap at Loose forward though.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20494 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="RescuedBlue"Well its been on all day with no responses and it slipped onto page 2
How odd! I'm sure all you knowledgeable (icon_surprised.gifopsicon_smile.gif folk who posted on this thread would have made sure it was 40 pages long by now if Sinfield was the player you made out
He puts in a sensational performance against the World Champions and nobody has anything to say. I suppose your silence says it all!'"
Think you will find most people were worried about his selection at 13 but happy to have him as a 9, turns out they were right.
"Sensational" interesting. Good yes, sensational.........
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 508 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2010 | Oct 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="jonh"Think you will find most people were worried about his selection at 13 but happy to have him as a 9, turns out they were right.
'"
No, general consensus seemed to be that he was useless at International level, period.
He controlled the game last night, something he's rarely been given the opportunity to do at International level, but thanks to the inexperience and lack of International quality of the two half backs last night, he was given the game to run and he thrived on it
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20494 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="RescuedBlue"No, general consensus seemed to be that he was useless at International level, period.
He controlled the game last night, something he's rarely been given the opportunity to do at International level, but thanks to the inexperience and lack of International quality of the two half backs last night, he was given the game to run and he thrived on it'"
No consensus was he had underachieved thus far.
120 minutes of good performances at International level and Loiners seem to think he is the best player in the world.
He has to back up this game and a half of good performances to be considered anything more than an International let down.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 508 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2010 | Oct 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="jonh"No consensus was he had underachieved thus far.'"
Quote ="jonh"120 minutes of good performances at International level and Loiners seem to think he is the best player in the world.'"
No, Sinfield put in his normal performance. Opposition fans' ridiculous bagging of him is what has caused the reaction IMO. He didn't do anything different yesterday than he has been doing for Leeds for the last 6 years
Quote ="jonh"He has to back up this game and a half of good performances to be considered anything more than an International let down.'"
That goes for every single player in the squad barring probably Peacock, Graham, Burgess and Ellis.
For someone who sounds so old when they post, you seem to have forgotten that whenever a "great" English player has pulled on an International jersey for the last 30 years, they have generally been made to look sh*t.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20494 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="RescuedBlue"icon_lol.gif
No, Sinfield put in his normal performance. Opposition fans' ridiculous bagging of him is what has caused the reaction IMO. He didn't do anything different yesterday than he has been doing for Leeds for the last 6 years
That goes for every single player in the squad barring probably Peacock, Graham, Burgess and Ellis.
For someone who sounds so old when they post, you seem to have forgotten that whenever a "great" English player has pulled on an International jersey for the last 30 years, they have generally been made to look sh*t.'"
My god you Leeds fans are slow. I and most people accept he has been a good domestic player but his performances have not followed as an International, that is the arena he is being judged in and thus far has produced 120 good minutes to a 21 game International career.
I am 31.
Hanley never looked , Schofield never looked , Jackson and Ward always held there own a few examples of a select few that did stand up and be tested.
Is the failure of a generation really a bench mark by which to assess our current International players?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9565 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2019 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| SInfield has generally been poor for GB/England. Hooker may well be his best role, although given the halfbacks he was playing with his role as key organiser and in generally keeping everyone talking was very important. I suspect that if Sinfield were in the NRL he'd have played at hooker his whole career.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20494 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"SInfield has generally been poor for GB/England. Hooker may well be his best role, although given the halfbacks he was playing with his role as key organiser and in generally keeping everyone talking was very important. I suspect that if Sinfield were in the NRL he'd have played at hooker his whole career.'"
agreed.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9565 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2019 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I think part of what we're seeing as Smith nudges towards a side that somehow works is that attempting to play against Oz in particular using a 'SL template' is doomed to failure.
A Sinfield-stytle loose forward simply doesn't exist in the NRL. Neither does a hooker who's whole game is based on runs from acting halfback. I've said for years that England in trying to use the loose forward as ball handler in fact detract from the performance of halfbacks (same true at club level IMO). The Sinfield/Farrell/Sculthorpe role of loose forward doesn't exist in the NRL because they have generally better halfbacks and need the loose forward to be a powerhouse not a playmaker.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 4726 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2012 | Oct 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17252 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2015 | Jun 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I'm not a Sinfield fan, but I thought he fully deserved MOM on Saturday.
Based off Saturdays game, I'd say he's a better unorthodox hooker than Loose Forward.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 1622 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sgtwilko"Thought it was a night for the old guard really, peacock Morley and ellis stood out for me! if anything it looked like graham was trying too hard which can gave the reverse effect at time. you could see there was a lot of personal frustration in his performance. I said graham needed to have a look at himself, well that's not always a bad thing. a little more composure would see him kick on again imo'"
That is a surprise, what's the easy link with those three?
Well done to Sinfield, he has been one of our best players in this tournament. Not a chance of winning the golden boot as the Australian nominees are vastly better players, but he has proved a lot of people wrong.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 7631 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2018 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Smurf"That is a surprise, what's the easy link with those three?.'"
All three have never let England/GB down?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 7631 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2018 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Apart from Morleys sending off!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 32363 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I've always rated Sinfield.
He would in all probability have been a Wigan player except for a certain Mr. Eric Hughes.
Sinfield has had a great series particularly since being moved to the dominant dummy half slot.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7069 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2023 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sinfield has Been voted best 13 in the world 2009 to go with his golden boot nomination! Ryan hall voted world rookie of the year too!
|
|
|
![](images/sitelogos/2022-28.jpg) |
|