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| Quote ="wigan_knight"little pm wont go a miss
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Aye me too if anybody would be kind enough!
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Noble has gone. Await more info on here.'"
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| Noble can not possibly polish a turd. He has players who are off taking drugs. Coupled to this there is a big drinking culture at the club. Moreover, he has to walk given the chairmen had publicly offered his job to someone else.
Noble to Roosters? I doubt that.
Why not sort all of this out after we have won the CHallenge Cup?
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Noble has gone. Await more info on here.'"
Sacked?
Resigned?
Falling on his sword for Hock?
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| Quote ="21-12"Iv got a feeling Mr Kearney will be taking his seat in the West stand next season, maybe this season.
I dont think Noble will make it through this season, WATCH THIS SPACE.'"
Kearney is only going to make the sort of U-turn you suggest if IL has gone back and offered him a shed-load more money, and experience thus far suggests that this won't happen.
We can watch this space all we want, but I find it very difficult indeed to believe that Kearney will be coming now.
If Noble goes, most likely we'll be appointing an interim coach.
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| Quote ="AJ"Sacked?
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Falling on his sword for Hock?'"
I suspect it's the last option. As much as I would have wanted Noble to stay with other coaches around him it could be the best thing all around to change the culture at this club.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"{nods}'" OMG PLEASE BE TRUE!!!!
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| Quote ="21-12"Oh well done you
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| Only way i can see Kearney doing a u-turn is if IL allows him to keep the NZ job..which i find very unlikely
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| Quote ="Renegade"I suspect it's the last option. As much as I would have wanted Noble to stay with other coaches around him it could be the best thing all around to change the culture at this club.'"
Perhaps, but would also like to see Vievers and Forshaw follow him.
All this fuss over Wane, I understand why short term its not a bad idea, I dont see why people are desperate for him to take over.
We need someone from outside to come in and change the culture and build on Noble's good work.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"little pm wont go a miss
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Wouldn't mind one meself if there goin
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Wouldn't mind one meself if there goin'"
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Wouldn't mind one meself if there goin'"
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| Quote ="21-12"Oh well done you
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I didnt hear from you laa.
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| Quote ="AJ"Perhaps, but would also like to see Vievers and Forshaw follow him.
All this fuss over Wane, I understand why short term its not a bad idea, I dont see why people are desperate for him to take over.
We need someone from outside to come in and change the culture and build on Noble's good work.'"
There we at last agree.
But, if Noble has suddenly gone, I'll be we need to appoint an interim guy until the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"There we at last agree.
But, if Noble has suddenly gone, I'll be we need to appoint an interim guy until the end of the season.'"
It was due eventually
I agree, but I would like the interim announcement swiftly followed up with the announcement of a new head coach.
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| Can we have Noble back then please?
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| So let me get this right, reading the last few posts that, noble has gone and Kearney has now changed his mind and will be are next coach is that pretty much it, correct me if I'm wrong.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"You obviously live in a different commercial world to me. Sounding people out about possible future opening happens in business all the time. It's something I've done as part of my job.'"
Sounding people out in business and doing what is being suggested here are two completely different things.
You are drawing a parallel that isn't there. Here we have the situation where, as I said, you are suggesting Kearney was sounded out about the head coach job here based on what results Noble may achieve.
In any case you are assuming all he did was sound him out which again if you adopt the common sense approach clearly isn't what happened. It is blindingly obvious he actually offered him the job to all but the most pedantic. You do not "decide not to enter into contract negotiations" unless you were asked to enter into them in the first place.
Quote IL - "Stephen there is a strong possibility the Wigan coaching job might be available next season. Would you be interested in more formal discussions later in the year should that be the case?" Not difficult is it?'"
You only need to finish the imagined discussion to see how implausible your suggestion is.
Kearney: "Ian, when you say 'strong possibility' what do you mean"?
IL "Well Stephen if Noble wins cup the job won't be available"
It's just not on. IL should have decided if Noble is going to be here next season by now regardless of future results and I believe he has. I believe based on the comments in the media that Kearney was offered the job. All the evidence points in that direction and there is none to suggest otherwise.
Saying where you privy to the conversatiuons, do you know for certain or whatever is the same sort of argument as "do you watch the reserves" when passing an opinion on Ainscough or whoever i.e. it ignores the evidence.
On the balance of evidence i.e. what has been in the media it is reasonable to conclude Kearney wasn't just sounded out but actually offered the job.
I have yet to see a convincing argument from you or anyone else that he was not.
Quote Lenagan no doubt has asked other as well and gets an idea of candidates interested. If he decides the results are still house at some point in the future (which lets face it is all about the Cup) he can then target the person he most favours who has expressed an interest and he can hopefully quickly conclude a deal.'"
It's not a scenario that is as off the wall as you are as desperate to make out.'"
Of course it is. The reason it is off the wall is all down to the suggestion the condition attached to the job being available is Noble may keep it based on results. There is no way you can expect a prospective coach to agree to that. He would in Kearney's case have to put off any form of long term commitment to the Kiwi's for example based on the [i possibility[/i of the Wigan job coming up.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"{nods}'"
Seeing as how you, and the rest of the little troop that's posted similar, always take these kind of punts/guesses which always turn out to be false; why do you continue to do it?
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| Quote ="AJ"
All this fuss over Wane, I understand why short term its not a bad idea, I dont see why people are desperate for him to take over.'"
I can't see it being a good move short term either, but if the rumours are true we may have no other option.
We seem to have long term and deep rooted culture problems that haven't been fixed by a change of club ownership and numerous changes in coaching and playing staff.
Seems to me like some of the 'constants' at the club could be part of whatever our 'culture problem' is. So, if the rumours are indeed true and Nobby has gone we then replace him as head of our esteemed club with probably one of the club's longest serving 'constants'?
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| So are we saying Noble has actually gone or are you in fact leading me up a path that will ultimately lead to a massive disapointment when he is sat in the stands calling the shots for us at Hull KR?!
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| Quote ="jonh"So are we saying Noble has actually gone or are you in fact leading me up a path that will ultimately lead to a massive disapointment when he is sat in the stands calling the shots for us at Hull KR?!'"
He was sacked yesterday evening.
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"I can't see it being a good move short term either, but if the rumours are true we may have no other option.
We seem to have long term and deep rooted culture problems that haven't been fixed by a change of club ownership and numerous changes in coaching and playing staff.
Seems to me like some of the 'constants' at the club could be part of whatever our 'culture problem' is. So, if the rumours are indeed true and Nobby has gone we then replace him as head of our esteemed club with probably one of the club's longest serving 'constants'?'"
I think the general opinion is that Wane is not tarred with the same brush as the other suspects. The number of posts on here about how well the junior sides play and how well he is respected by the junior players suggests to me he isn't part of the problem.
I am not suggesting he be coach long term but I think you are being a bit harsh to dismiss him from a short term appointment because he is also part of the problem.
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| I really hope this to be true, no disrespect to the man he has off the field been part of a very important time for Wigan regards putting systems in place, but has failed on the coaching front.
Interesting the timing of the sacking given recent events.
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