Leeds. Thats irrelevant though.

Are we not mentioning off shore bank accounts then

No

I've changed my mind about that bag, I dont have any shoes to go with it.

Not without knowing the full details of every contract at the club it isn't.

no we have plenty of cap space at leeds! leeds have a strict pay structure. something you pie's with your club would find hard to understand. leeds unlike wigan are the example of a well run cap so i dont expect you to get it.

how do you know ablett wasnt offered other contracts? and didnt stay at leeds for the love of the club, and a chance to play for a better contract, as i said he's on better money with a review at the end of the year, apposed to scruton who felt that the money the bulls offered was right for him at the time and signed for a poor club.

As if he'd turn down a two/three year deal from another Super League club just to stay at Leeds ''for the love of the club''. Get real.

Truth is, Leeds' offer was probably his only Super League option.

Yet he outplayed anyone put in front of him (including Smith) in the World Cup. KK has never done a bean at World level and, even by your reckoning, you can only find 4 candidates who are better! All this for a player with no more than a handful of games in this position!



Actually all that is by the by, as the point I was making was that, in the context of the argument, you felt the need to point out his uninspiring performances at half back eventhough it had nothing to do with what was being said, and failed to point out that he had performed to a world level at hooker, which did have bearing on the argument.

One final thing. Away from the argument at hand, but relevent to your post re: TL's half back performances. Who were England's half backs at the WC? Didn't exactly set the world on fire did they, being outplayed by every combination they took the field against. Care to comment on that with your wonderful level of rugby knowledge?

yeah crazy thinking someone would stay at a club because they love it!!

how stupid of me.

talk about selective reading. i will say it again one more time!!! ablett has been given an improved deal with a review to it been made longer at the end of season.

and you have no idea what clubs came to ablett, if you think non your a fool.

i believe hull kr was one but there just rumours

Now you've really lost the plot haven't you? So you know that was the reason he only signed a one year deal is it or are you just clutching at straws to back up an obviously poor argument?

There is cap space at Leeds but they couldn't offer one of their best backrowers a better deal. Correct me if I'm missing something but isn't that a contradiction? Also, it's not as if Leeds don't tie their better players to longer contracts..isn't Peacock playing out his career there for example?

Let's get real for a moment. You're trying to tell us that a player Leeds only saw fit to offer a 1 year deal to, never played at representative level, or been up for any individual honours is better than 3 proven internationals, an ex-Kangeroo and SOO player and last year's nominated young player of the year. I believe you....no really...

If he was that good he wouldn't have an ''improved deal with review''.

He'd just be given a good, two or three year extension like most other proven players.

Carry on digging though, it's funny.

just to go completely off topic!! Little bird told me that the exact same team are starting as last week and the exact same people are sitting on the bench. this is to be expected , if its not broken.....

Great news , if true.

Im saying thats the big difference wher the gap between the team is the biggest, you offer lots more than just that which is why you have 2 super league trophies in two years and we dont.

oh yes yes so funny

mmm mmm smug mod

its called a pay structure. leeds wernt gonna brake it for scruton and not for ablett.

And neither would I !

This is getting boring. No-body who supports Wigan would want Ablett anywhere near the team. I'm certainly glad he's in their team and not ours. Leeds fans can have their own opinion about him.

yeah ok fuzzy!! good to see your full of beans. dont have too juch sugar tonight!! you will never sleep.

these world betters up until a lucky win at quins and playing well against the worst bulls team ive ever seen were not fit to wear the shirt. wigan fans are off the hook

but good on ya all. its nice to see ya get up for a game

good maybe you could get a job at HQ

I cannot believe anyone would want Ablett rather than any of our second rowers-

Hanson- Top tackler
Hock- Class act
Tomkins- Young player of the get year, he will only get better.

Ablett- average player in a great team.

Whoever said Carmont can be poor in defence is crazy.

Clearly a fan who was jealous of a glory days.

me and actually i am a little crazy at times so far do's.

but i still think he get out of position and leaves his winger exposed

All wingers are left exposed at some point when the centres have to come inside.
He doesnt miss many tackles though for his position.

not at all as a kid i loved seeing that great wigan team win the cups.

its only in my old age i hate big day out fans

Did you not read the bit which a couple of people mentioned back row is our strongest position, never gets any critisism and our problems lie in other areas?

SENSE!!!