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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"And if he had said, "i have lots of players ill" he would have been accused of making his excuses early.... Can't win can he..'"
Whatever he said would not have changed the outcome, so why didn't he show a bit of style and simply say well done Wakefield and move on.
There's a few other teams in SL with as many if not more injuries and for a longer period as well, have just got on with the job in hand without having to make excuses by way of a video highlighting your deficiencies under the guise of excuses.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Whatever he said would not have changed the outcome, so why didn't he show a bit of style and simply say well done Wakefield and move on.
There's a few other teams in SL with as many if not more injuries and for a longer period as well, have just got on with the job in hand without having to make excuses by way of a video highlighting your deficiencies under the guise of excuses.'"
I'm pretty sure he does it just to give people on fans forums, who feel they have some supposed moral high ground something to whine about....
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"As someone who has watched every team that Wane has coached from U16's/U18's/ reserves to first team I can honestly say that yesterday was the most unlike Wane team performance I have ever seen. I don't think I've ever seen one of his teams "throw the towel in" before.'"
I'd argue that we did at Cas away and Catalans away last year, and Liam Farrell admitted they did during the WCS game this year.
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| What would have happened had Wigan refused to field a team based on medical reasons?
Has this happened before?
From the interview with Radlinski it seems we had plenty of evidence to show that players and staff were suffering from a virus, surely there is an argument to say that playing on with a virus would actually cause more damage to the health of the players?
Are there any benefits of fielding a team in these circumstances?
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I'm pretty sure he does it just to give people on fans forums, who feel they have some supposed moral high ground something to whine about....'"
Alternatively I'm pretty sure he does it just to give his own people on fans forums some sort of excuse to defend the abject display of their team, ironically it's not the fans of the team what humiliated you what's taking the high ground, we knew you had injuries and were just grateful for the points. Perhaps a new trend has been set now where when a team loses it releases a video listing possible excuses as the cause
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| Quote ="chissitt"Alternatively I'm pretty sure he does it just to give his own people on fans forums some sort of excuse to defend the abject display of their team, ironically it's not the fans of the team what humiliated you what's taking the high ground, we knew you had injuries and were just grateful for the points. Perhaps a new trend has been set now where when a team loses it releases a video listing possible excuses as the cause
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Why don't you just give it up, mate?
We get it. You won. Whoopee. The world turns.
Your team's had all the praise it's going to get, and no matter how hard you try, no Wigan fan is going to admit that being short of 10 first-teamers was no handicap.
So why don't you just put your win behind you and start looking for the next one? It's a long season.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Alternatively I'm pretty sure he does it just to give his own people on fans forums some sort of excuse to defend the abject display of their team, ironically it's not the fans of the team what humiliated you what's taking the high ground, we knew you had injuries and were just grateful for the points. Perhaps a new trend has been set now where when a team loses it releases a video listing possible excuses as the cause
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You got to be Wigan for a day and we played the cameo of a team very well, roles reversed perfectly. Enjoy it, enjoy the middle 8's and good luck staying up.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"As someone who has watched every team that Wane has coached from U16's/U18's/ reserves to first team I can honestly say that yesterday was the most unlike Wane team performance I have ever seen. I don't think I've ever seen one of his teams "throw the towel in" before.
After 20 minutes the game was only 6 - 0 and then came the first interchanges, Mossop and Clubb off replaced by Tautai and Burke. From then on the game just went away from Wigan.
To be fair to Wakefield, they played some great rugby and with the amount of possession they had they took Wigan apart.
With such an inexperienced back line I think Wigan should have gone boring, five drives and a kick and hoped for errors.
I can understand the lack of precision in the attacking side of the game when you are missing four of your biggest metre makers, but that should not transfer to the
defensive/ tackling side of the game.
I hope Radlinski goes in to the young players and reminds them of his first team debut.
=#FF0000On a lighter note, my shower new gel appears to be working. Saints fans who have avoided me for the last three weeks all wanted to talk to me today.'"
I fear that I must now have chickenpox or measles. Those self same "fans" now appear to be avoiding me again!!
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| Quote ="ChrisA"You got to be Wigan for a day and we played the cameo of a poop team very well, roles reversed perfectly. Enjoy it, enjoy the middle 8's and good luck staying up.'"
Its nice to see the pig-headed arrogance doesn't stop with Mr Wane. Enjoy watching your 4-5 men 'laying on in the tackle' robots, it must be fun.
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| Mash come on fella you have to admit if Wigan had not had sickness going through the camp and one small training session and 8 first teasers out you would have scored 62 still past Wigan Warriors at full strength..... Have a word lad it's one game give your head a wobble
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| Quote ="stuwiganman"Mash come on fella you have to admit if Wigan had not had sickness going through the camp and one small training session and 8 first teasers out you would have scored 62 still past Wigan Warriors at full strength..... Have a word lad it's one game give your head a wobble'"
If he wobbles that head, the rattle will deafen us all....
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"Its nice to see the pig-headed arrogance doesn't stop with Mr Wane. Enjoy watching your 4-5 men 'laying on in the tackle' robots, it must be fun.'"
Out of everyone in this thread the arrogance is coming from you. Wakey won their 'cup final', Wigan on the other hand will now concentrate on getting to actual cup finals.
When's the open top bus parade btw?
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| All the noise I heard come from Wigan was about how we'd have struggled to get a win with a full team out. We were missing ten players and many others were struggling with a virus but Waley were brilliant and showed no mercy. They've been on the wrong end of plenty of scores like that and it was their turn so fair play.
They can't seriously think they'd win 62-0 on a normal Sunday afternoon against Wigan with all things being equal though? That isn't arrogant to point that it but is just based on recent history. If they do and they could have then they'll certainly be challenging for all the trophies this year.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Out of everyone in this thread the arrogance is coming from you. Wakey won their 'cup final', Wigan on the other hand will now concentrate on getting to actual cup finals.
When's the open top bus parade btw?'"
The Irony in this post is bursting the %100 level.
Our cup final was Leeds anyway, after all, they did the treble last season.
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"The Irony in this post is bursting the %100 level.
Our cup final was Leeds anyway, after all, they did the treble last season.'"
You really need to walk away. You'll not convince anyone here that the result in question wasn't just a blip owing to off-field problems. If it had been 22-0, you could probably boast about it more, but no-one on this planet will buy that Wakefield are 60 points better than Wigan in normal circumstances.
In any case, if you don't make it count, it'll be no more than a blip for you lot too.
You don't want to be like those sad St. Helens fans who still celebrate whupping the Wigan A-team 75-0, when in fact they got knocked out of the Cup themselves in the very next round.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"All the noise I heard come from Wigan was about how we'd have struggled to get a win with a full team out. We were missing ten players and many others were struggling with a virus but Waley were brilliant and showed no mercy. They've been on the wrong end of plenty of scores like that and it was their turn so fair play.
They can't seriously think they'd win 62-0 on a normal Sunday afternoon against Wigan with all things being equal though? That isn't arrogant to point that it but is just based on recent history. If they do and they could have then they'll certainly be challenging for all the trophies this year.'"
Much like Shaun Wane's idiotic coach to London comment didn't reflect the post match reflections of most Wigan fans, neither do MashPotato's musings reflect the attitude of most Wakefield fans. We won and we won well, and whilst there's some scepticism about Wane's reasons for fielding an understrength side in what has traditionally been a straightforward two points smash and grab, we're under no illusion that we're 62 points better than Wigan's first 17.
Worth pointing out I thought - to avoid MP's OTT reaction being conflated with the general view of the more reasonable WT supporter.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Much like Shaun Wane's idiotic coach to London comment didn't reflect the post match reflections of most Wigan fans, neither do MashPotato's musings reflect the attitude of most Wakefield fans. We won and we won well, and whilst there's some scepticism about Wane's reasons for fielding an understrength side in what has traditionally been a straightforward two points smash and grab, we're under no illusion that we're 62 points better than Wigan's first 17.
Worth pointing out I thought - to avoid MP's OTT reaction being conflated with the general view of the more reasonable WT supporter.'"
Wane let himself down with that comment and I think most Wigan fans acknowledged that. I would say 95% if what he came out with was very complimentary but he ruined it by tagging that on.
I'd like to point out we didn't field an understrength side in terms of resting players. We picked every single player that was available including ones who were ill. We got Bateman and Crosby back only for the Cas game with Crosby coming off a big operation and Bateman back from missing the previous two. We certainly didn't do an Ian Millward and send a second string side over with any thoughts of it being an easy two points.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Much like Shaun Wane's idiotic coach to London comment didn't reflect the post match reflections of most Wigan fans, neither do MashPotato's musings reflect the attitude of most Wakefield fans. We won and we won well, and whilst there's some scepticism about Wane's reasons for fielding an understrength side in what has traditionally been a straightforward two points smash and grab, we're under no illusion that we're 62 points better than Wigan's first 17.
Worth pointing out I thought - to avoid MP's OTT reaction being conflated with the general view of the more reasonable WT supporter.'"
Your response is welcomed. But really who cares if Wigan had 10 players missing? Wakey won fair and square. Let's hope you can build on what seems to have been good work by Brian Smith and get in the top 8 this season.
It's good for Super League that Wakey can compete like they have been doing over the last month or so. And also let's hope that when Wakey come to our place all the fans who have been giving it large on here feel emboldened to make up a decent away support for a change.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Wane let himself down with that comment and I think most Wigan fans acknowledged that. I would say 95% if what he came out with was very complimentary but he ruined it by tagging that on.
I'd like to point out we didn't field an understrength side in terms of resting players. We picked every single player that was available including ones who were ill. We got Bateman and Crosby back only for the Cas game with Crosby coming off a big operation and Bateman back from missing the previous two. We certainly didn't do an Ian Millward and send a second string side over with any thoughts of it being an easy two points.'"
He did - it was the reaction of an angry fan, not of a respected Head Coach.
I guess that's where the scepticism comes in; some might reasonably think that he fielded an understrength side and it backfired on him - and the subsequent awkward video and Wane's dark mutterings about evil stuff afoot in the Wigan camp that nobody knows about or understands, sound like excuses. It doesn't really matter either way - it was a great result for us and a terrible one for you; the impact of it however, won't be apparent until the business end of the season.
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| There was no need for the 'coach to London' comment. Not only was it a bizzare one to make (the game was a SL match not a CC match), it smacked of poor taste.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Your response is welcomed. But really who cares if Wigan had 10 players missing? Wakey won fair and square. Let's hope you can build on what seems to have been good work by Brian Smith and get in the top 8 this season.
It's good for Super League that Wakey can compete like they have been doing over the last month or so. And also let's hope that when Wakey come to our place all the fans who have been giving it large on here feel emboldened to make up a decent away support for a change.'"
Despite a barnstorming Easter, I don't think many Wakey fans are predicting even top 8; given the dire period we've recently endured, 4 wins on the bounce and a bit of positivity in terms of being competitive, is enough to lift the spirits.
As for those giving it large making up a decent away support - I imagine they'll both be there; as for the rest of us, if WT continue to be competitive, we might fill up a few open top coaches and make the journey!
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| When the f*** is this thread going to die?
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| Quote ="bren2k"He did - it was the reaction of an angry fan, not of a respected Head Coach.
I guess that's where the scepticism comes in; some might reasonably think that he fielded an understrength side and it backfired on him - and the subsequent awkward video and Wane's dark mutterings about evil stuff afoot in the Wigan camp that nobody knows about or understands, sound like excuses. It doesn't really matter either way - it was a great result for us and a terrible one for you; the impact of it however, won't be apparent until the business end of the season.'"
We only need to look at our side the week before against Wire to see we weren't resting anyone.
I think in the long term the impact of that result could be far greater for you then us. It obviously hurts losing 62-0 but I don't think we'll dwell on it due to the issues faced and it'll all be forgotten if we strong enough wins together to get a place in the top four (which I expect we will). On the flip side Wakey can take great confidence from it and it'll make all teams wary of what awaits them at Belle Vue.
It's a funny old game but the result may well be of benefit to both clubs in the long run.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Much like Shaun Wane's idiotic coach to London comment didn't reflect the post match reflections of most Wigan fans, neither do MashPotato's musings reflect the attitude of most Wakefield fans. We won and we won well, and whilst there's some scepticism about Wane's reasons for fielding an understrength side in what has traditionally been a straightforward two points smash and grab, we're under no illusion that we're 62 points better than Wigan's first 17.
Worth pointing out I thought - to avoid MP's OTT reaction being conflated with the general view of the more reasonable WT supporter.'"
I like the way you say I'm being OTT and continue to post exactly the same things I've been saying. Nice work.
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