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| That is all we need.
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| He's been carrying a dislocated/broken toe over Easter. Don't think he'll be out that long but I could be wrong!
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| I'm sure the team will get a bagging in some quarters today but these injuries are turning this period in to a write off from a results point of view. It's a very long time since we had this many lads missing at once and it's the quality and the importance of the players that's hurting. If you're missing 10 players and they're a mixture of your best players and some squad players it's not too bad but to have Lockers, Tomkins. Williams, Bateman, Manfredi, McIlorum etc all missing at the same time really is unbelievably bad luck.
They've just got to ride it out as best they can.
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| True Nicky, but perhaps this will end once and for all the myriad calls to get the kids in.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'm sure the team will get a bagging in some quarters today but these injuries are turning this period in to a write off from a results point of view. It's a very long time since we had this many lads missing at once and it's the quality and the importance of the players that's hurting. If you're missing 10 players and they're a mixture of your best players and some squad players it's not too bad but to have Lockers, Tomkins. Williams, Bateman, Manfredi, McIlorum etc all missing at the same time really is unbelievably bad luck.
They've just got to ride it out as best they can.'"
We're missing 10 players from a side that has had the quality eroded from it for 5 years.
We're playing 5 teenagers today. It's no shock we're getting smashed.
Sadly it's the state of SL - this is what the powers want.
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| Can't believe we've had over 50 points against us so far without reply, even with all our injuries - total disaster!
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| 62 - 0 v Wakey !
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| Final score 62 - 0 says it all really
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| Under no circumstances is that scoreline acceptable.
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| I just typed something out, then deleted it. I've learned not to post when this annoyed. I'll sleep on it and join the debate tomorrow.
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| That's shocking.
Get rid and get the kids in................oh.
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| Quote ="Anglesey Warrior"Can't believe we've had over 50 points against us so far without reply, even with all our injuries - total disaster!'"
Not the end of the world, i know we'll still be up there at the end of the season. However, Matty Smith, Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop, Tony Clubb, Dan Sarginson, Josh Charnley all in that side today. All played for England at international level. Forget about injuries and the amount of young kids in the team, the reason we lost today was because those players didn't stand up, show their experience and direct our young guys around the field, pathetic. Credit to Wakefield - brilliant performance.
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| HOW TO SUM UP WIGAN .....
CHICKEN STOCK
BEEF STOCK
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THE RFL SHOULD FINE WIGAN FOR TURNING UP WITH A UNDER STRENGTH TEAM .
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| Quote ="red in buxton"HOW TO SUM UP WIGAN .....
CHICKEN STOCK
BEEF STOCK
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THE RFL SHOULD FINE WIGAN FOR TURNING UP WITH A UNDER STRENGTH TEAM .'"
The admins should fine you for turning up with a severely under strength attempt at humour.
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| Quote ="Wigan RLFC" However, Matty Smith, Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop, Tony Clubb, Dan Sarginson, Josh Charnley all in that side today. All played for England at international level. Forget about injuries and the amount of young kids in the team, the reason we lost today was because those players didn't stand up, show their experience and direct our young guys around the field, pathetic. '"
Yes, this. Other sides we play at least seem to have a functioning pair of halves. I've never been a fan of Miller or Finn, but it sounded like they both had a field day today.
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| Not a troll - I have a genuine point here.
Wigan have a first rate academy so when you combine that with a side containing Josh Charnley, Tony Clubb, Willie Isa, Dom Manfredi, Lee Mossop, Sam Powell, Dan Sarginson, Matty Smith, Taulima Tautai and Joel Tomkins (maybe even Sutton and Burke) it is really surprising that the score was what it was.
There are enough seasoned professionals in that side to make a match of it.
It might be just a case of 'put it down to a very bad day at the office' and move on. Sometimes you can read too much into a result and beat yourself up with no positive benefit.
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| Manfredi didn't play, but yes, it should have been a lot better.
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| Hull KR put in a much better performance with a worse team against us. No excuses for that performance and score line.
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| Quote ="Wigan RLFC"Not the end of the world, i know we'll still be up there at the end of the season. However, Matty Smith, Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop, Tony Clubb, Dan Sarginson, Josh Charnley all in that side today. All played for England at international level. Forget about injuries and the amount of young kids in the team, the reason we lost today was because those players didn't stand up, show their experience and direct our young guys around the field, pathetic. Credit to Wakefield - brilliant performance.'"
I agree its not the end of the world but, as has already been said, no way is that scoreline remotely acceptable.
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| The result isn't a surprise, I called Wakefield by 12 - they are on form and yes we have injuries to key players, it happens.
But the scoreline is totally uacceptable, as bad as Catalans away last year. I don't think it'll cost Wane his job (and it shouldn't either). But it is another wake up call for the club that things need to change. I don't know what the answer is, but we need a response.
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| You look at the injuries to ten senior players.
The scrapping of the reserves competition with U19's having the cut off.
Poor recruitment when experienced players leave. Filling the team with kids with no leadership weakening our strength in depth. It looks only set to continue with Oliver Gildart replacing Dan Sarginson.
The few "senior" players we have are pretty ordinary i.e Matty Smith, Lee Mossop etc
Having said all of that - that performance/scoreline will never be acceptable. There are no excuses that can justify that scoreline.We need answers and we need to make sure that never happens again.
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| I posted at 28-0 that I didn't feel we should get too down on them today and I stick by that but to let the scoreboard blow like that is worrying. We were always got me to lose today and unless we get a few bodies back we'll continue to do so but you don't expect that. The attitude of the players has been spot on this year but the form in attack hasn't been great. We had Cas away and Catalans away last year where we just didn't turn up. I don't feel as down today as I did after those two defeats because there are clearly mitigating circumstances but they only count for a portion.
Here's to a change of fortune on the injury front. If and when we get that we'll be able to form a much better judgement of where we're at.
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| Could be worse. Could be Leeds
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| I'm wondering what pearls of wisdom Pacific has to offer on this result.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Could be worse. Could be Leeds'"
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