A good winger in this day and age should be able to do both. Briscoe, Hall, BJB, Charnley and McGilvery all are good kick returners and score some great tries.

What makes a nice change is that we are having this debate over those decent young wingers shown in the stats, instead of being lumped with some average wingers who are our only options.

Remember the days of Mark Calderwood and Ade Gardner? Im sure we even shoved Leon Pryce on the wing at one time



We are actually building potentially the best england team for a while and if we can get a decent coach in we should look good for the world cup in 2013.

We've got a great fullback in Sam Tomkins, 3 good halves in Widdop, Lomax and Brough. We've always had a decent pack. The above shows we've got loads of good young wingers coming through and recently Jack Reed has chosen to play for England, which is a massive boost and Bridge can do alot of damage.

Centre is our weakest spot though IMO because players like Yeaman, Whelam and Atkins dont cut it IMO, so if Bridge or Reed get an injury we've not got good enough quality to cover it. Which is poor seeing as there are 12 English teams in Super League. Maybe after Joels had a pre season and another full season learning the trades of a centre he will be in for a shout? I wouldnt pick him at the moment in the centres for England but it could be a future possibility if he carries on improving.

Wests Tigers' Chris Heighington added to England train-on squad.

Class player by all accounts.

We've been that bad in the last 10 years I've gone past caring where these lads are from tbh. The Aussies have plenty of islanders playing for them so why not us have guys with English mothers and people like Manu who qualify on residency grounds.

There is an attitude of 'we should be able to produce our own' but if the Aussies don't think that way with the NRL why should we. We only need to look at the English cricket and Union sides to see our attitude is out of date.

You can bet your bottom dollar Uate will be playing for Aus even though he in Fijian, same with Petro.

Nathan Fien is Aussie through and through yet will play for NZ.

I think we have good enough second rowers to not have to pick Manu but I've not seen much of Heighington to comment.

Well think of Heighington very much in the Sean O’Loughlin mould, similar type of player, massive workhorse

Manu is a beast, if he made himself available and i was England coach i'd pick him.

I actually think we have a squad that can compete this time round, just a shame Big Sam is injured.

Ste mcbananaaaa as he employed some 1 to find out if every Ozy s got English ancestors so he can pick them, I'd rather pick young English kids and get beat than pick imports

Why?

As it stands we have Widdop who is English with English parents and only moved to Oz when he was 16.

Reed who is English with English parents and moved to Oz aged 3.

Heighington who was born in Oz to an English father.

Why not pick the best available?

Tom Briscoe, Kris Welham and Kirk Yeaman added to England train-on squad alongside Reed and Heighington.
Arundel, Broughton, Cox, Donaldson, Gale, Houghton, Ratchford, M Smith, Taylor, Watts, Westerman added to England Knights squad.

If Heighington has been added why hasn't Ellis?

Waiting to see if he will be fit or not I think. Having some tests this week.

On another note, Lockyer, what a tough bloke! Wanting to play less than a week after having 4 steel plates put in his cheek.

Massive risk by the sounds of it as well. Apparently doctors down under are saying his eyesight could be a risk if he plays! There's no way he'll miss this game though! True legend of the game!

Surely he wouldnt mind a swansong season over here!

Of course he's going to play. Arguably the best player of all time is 2 games away from finishing his career with another Grand Final win! He's not going to finish his playing time on the sidelines with something as trivial as a fractured cheek bone

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His face was swelling up at the post match interview, he copped a knee from one of his own team mates, when asked how it was he said a bit sore lets see how it goes.

Ahem, he's no longer playing.

Brough, Crabtree, Robinson and Cudjoe join England squad, but not McGillvary who joins Ferguson, Lawrence and Patrick in Knights squad.

Lockers won't play in the International series!

Your the second person who's said that.

End of season op?

Spill ?

I've heard this Lockers rumour too. Looked ok against Catalans to me though!

Some chance.

Rangi Chase.

re Lockers.
I was told last week that he needs an operation and it could keep him out for the start of next season, so IF true it must be something serious.