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Not good enough if B.N. decides to go then we need a proven coach to take over or it could set us back 4 years
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Not good enough if B.N. decides to go then we need a proven coach to take over or it could set us back 4 years
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| Quote ="riversideboy"who was the first choice, do you know.'"
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Yes'"
presumeably lockyer
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| Anasta would be awesome in Super League, whether he would want to go is another story. He may well be leaving the Roosters at the end of the season as he's out of contract and the Roosters signing Todd Carney.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Anasta would be awesome in Super League, whether he would want to go is another story. He may well be leaving the Roosters at the end of the season as he's out of contract and the Roosters signing Todd Carney.'"
In the article above it states he has 2 and a half years left on his contract.
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| Long is the one we should get.
He won't go running back to Aus, he isn't a fair weather player. He's still arguably the best 7 in SL, he isn't an unknown as we've seen what he can do in our league.
The above doesn't apply to Orford or any other Aussies who've never played in SL, we don't know how they'll go, we've seen many Aussie's do well over there and do nothing in SL, Long will.
He's 32, so what. We'll get 2 years out of him, his experience and will to win is second to none. After his 2 years with we'll then have Sam with 3 years SL experience and further experience from one of the best British halves over the last 10 years in Long.
We need a leader and someone who can move us around the field, he's the man for the job.
Ideally, (if we could fit them under the cap) I'd like to sign Myler and Long. Move Sam to FB and play split halves with Myler and Long. Let them both learn from Long. Long doesn't need to play every game as occasionally we could move Sam to 6 to partner Myler to prepare for the future.
So two years down the line we'd have a Tomkins and Myler, both with experience at 6 and 7 both learnt from Long, leaving us with quality halves for many years to come.
We also need a prop, but is Aus really the answer? Maybe, maybe not.
Now I will hit you with my trademark enter a line up for next season to show my Wigan team for next year.
Tomkins
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Richards
Myler Long
NEW PROP McC O Carroll
Hock Lockers
J Tomkins
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Tommy Feka Fielden Mossop
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"no'"
I'm sure there's no need to be so cryptic. The club leaks like a sieve. If you tell us what you've heard, no-one's going to trace it back to anyone in particular. There'll be no payback.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'm sure there's no need to be so cryptic. The club leaks like a sieve. If you tell us what you've heard, no-one's going to trace it back to anyone in particular. There'll be no payback.'"
Well my mate at the club would loose his job if they did
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Well my mate at the club would loose his job if they did'"
Heard it all now.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Yes'"
thanks for that detailed and well thought out answer.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Well my mate at the club would loose his job if they did'"
How would anyone know?
I get told things all the time by my mate at the club. I get sworn to secrecy, and then a day later get told the same thing by some bloke in a town centre pub.
No-one's going to trace these leaks.
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| Ok here it is, IL has hired me as a secret assassin, if Andy Greg says anything, he's history.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Well my mate at the club would loose his job if they did'"
Would IL sack himself?
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| Tomkins to fullback - talk sense
We need a 7 and 10. They have to be of top quality, if Dobson is OOC at KR we need to offer him a chance to return, on proper money this time, not on the cheap as so many of our signings.
Long, Why? Where is the long term planning in that given his injury record.
Myler - as good as he may be, our fans are to impatient, and would not wait for he and Sam to develop.
Orford - World class in every sense, good injury record and whilst getting on, is a better player than long.
Orford & O'Meley for me.
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| Dobson agreed to a contract and then came back asking for a better deal. In all Dobson was offered 3 contracts and then went to Hull KR.
This is in no way a pop at Dobson, I do not blame him for making his time over here worthwhile.
However it does disregard the urban myth that we aren't prepared to offer up players financially.
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| Quote ="AJ"Tomkins to fullback - talk sense
We need a 7 and 10. They have to be of top quality, if Dobson is OOC at KR we need to offer him a chance to return, on proper money this time, not on the cheap as so many of our signings.
Long, Why? Where is the long term planning in that given his injury record.
Myler - as good as he may be, our fans are to impatient, and would not wait for he and Sam to develop.
Orford - World class in every sense, good injury record and whilst getting on, is a better player than long.
Orford & O'Meley for me.'"
That would be very good in the short term regarding Orford but what would we do when he leaves in 2 years?
If the club are going to get a stop gap signing they need to have a plan in place for when he leaves but who would there be to replace him when he left?
If we could get O'Meley back to his rep form he would be an awesome signing but there is always going to be the doubt that he could end up a poor signing which would be a huge blow
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| Orford is a good player, but i seriously dont understand why Wigan fans want these kind of players. You would get a couple of years out of him and then what? Sign another Aussie journeyman??? Ever heard of building a team?
BTW O'Meley will never get back to his rep days, thats just wishful thinking.
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| Quote ="AJ"Tomkins to fullback - talk sense
We need a 7 and 10. They have to be of top quality, if Dobson is OOC at KR we need to offer him a chance to return, on proper money this time, not on the cheap as so many of our signings.
Long, Why? Where is the long term planning in that given his injury record.
Myler - as good as he may be, our fans are to impatient, and would not wait for he and Sam to develop.
Orford - World class in every sense, good injury record and whilst getting on, is a better player than long.
Orford & O'Meley for me.'"
Long is proven in the SL Orford isn't. He may be a 'fair weather' player, or he may miss Aus too much, all these problems aren't applicable to Long. Better signing.
Sign Long and Myler, I explained my reasonings for this and for Tomkins at FB earlier in this thread.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Orford is a good player, but i seriously dont understand why Wigan fans want these kind of players. You would get a couple of years out of him and then what? Sign another Aussie journeyman??? Ever heard of building a team?
BTW O'Meley will never get back to his rep days, thats just wishful thinking.'"
I don't think many people can be watching O'Meley on this site. They are all expecting the same O Meley from the bulldogs.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Orford is a good player, but i seriously dont understand why Wigan fans want these kind of players. You would get a couple of years out of him and then what? Sign another Aussie journeyman??? Ever heard of building a team?
BTW O'Meley will never get back to his rep days, thats just wishful thinking.'"
What other options do we have at the moment. We need a top class half he is one and available. We cannot sadly generate top class halves out of thin air. Orford would be a stop gap but it would allow us time to continue to develop our our players or bring in a good young player such as Myler who could be brought through to replace him in 2 years time. Trying to develop Tomkins and Myler at the same time as lead halves could cause more harm than good and rarely leads to success.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I don't think many people can be watching O'Meley on this site. They are all expecting the same O Meley from the bulldogs.'"
Precisely what im trying to say. The descriptions ive read of O'Meley on here have been laughable, im beginning to wonder whether we are talking about the same player, because i havent seen him play that well all season.
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| Quote ="jonh"What other options do we have at the moment. We need a top class half he is one and available. We cannot sadly generate top class halves out of thin air. Orford would be a stop gap but it would allow us time to continue to develop our our players or bring in a good young player such as Myler who could be brought through to replace him in 2 years time. Trying to develop Tomkins and Myler at the same time as lead halves could cause more harm than good and rarely leads to success.'"
Sean Long.
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