I get your point in the initial sentence. There'd no doubt be fans demanding some sort of answers or explanation after a heavy defeat like that.

But I still feel that Wigan have, perhaps inadvertently I'm not sure, disrespected Wakefield a little bit and put all the focus on the excuses for losing the game.

There seems to be a lot of self pity in that video, should have kept it behind closed doors, take it on the chin and move on to the next game. If Powell showed the cas players that video I should imagine they would come out with all guns firing for that first 20 mins.

Rouges, coming from yourself your comment about a Wigan team throwing the towel in will have had more effect with the watchers from the club than any of the comments from the majority on here.
Why do I say that, because in any so called crisis on here before when posters are going over the top, my self included you have always come across as someone who gives a measured view of the problem of the time.

Quote ="Judder Man"There seems to be a lot of self pity in that video, should have kept it behind closed doors, take it on the chin and move on to the next game. If Powell showed the cas players that video I should imagine they would come out with all guns firing for that first 20 mins.'" www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/ru ... us-4805232 Your chairman is the whiniest of the lot. The amount of times he's publicly slated referees and your team after bad performances is embarrassing. Oh and because it seemingly has to be stated in every post relating to yesterday's game: "Well done to Wakefield, they deserved it"

Quote ="Judder Man"There seems to be a lot of self pity in that video, should have kept it behind closed doors, take it on the chin and move on to the next game. If Powell showed the cas players that video I should imagine they would come out with all guns firing for that first 20 mins.'" www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/ru ... us-4805232 Your chairman is the whiniest of the lot. The amount of times he's publicly slated referees and your team after bad performances is embarrassing. Oh and because it seemingly has to be stated in every post relating to yesterday's game: "Well done to Wakefield, they deserved it"

July 2013 ? Come on; I'm sure if you look harder you will find some more recent whines by our Chairman !!

If you look to the last paragraph it says "The Tigers produced the shock of the Super League season at the weekend as they got the better of Wigan, 18-4, at the JJB Stadium."

I hope its not a portent of things to come for you.

If the virus was so bad then seek a postponement simple as that there isnt not a single reason for them not too if a big prop like Flower is losing weight like that,who is running the club seriously?

A few of us have said that too. Rads said in his interview that we had been in contact with the RFL and we got dispensation in the salary cap to allow 2 more youngsters to make their debut meaning their wages would now count on the cap. Maybe the RFL wouldn't let us postpone it??

Our chairman more often says "whats on the tin" and won't resort to self pity and produce a "dark video". The RFL should be asking for medical certificates like our game against the Bulls many years ago, that scoreline of 62-0 is very damaging to the image of our sport as was the 75-0 and the 70-0 before it.
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The dispensation to increase the playing roster should be only given on certificated evidence to the RFL........I hope this has been executed by due process and not by video presentation.

Yawn

Your club has rested players twice against Bradford. 2002 when you tried to keep your players fresh for the Cup Final against us and still lost

and then 2004 when Long and Gleeson bet on the match



Both times your club was dragged through the gutter because of it.

Don't try and take the high ground here you muppet.

The High Ground.

Statement from RFL


Former New Zealand Test captain Quentin Pongia has been stood down by Wigan following outrage over revelations that he has played the first three months of the Super League season with the contagious blood disorder hepatitis B.

Pongia, who briefly played for St George Illawarra last year after previous stints with Canberra, the Warriors and Roosters, was diagnosed with the potentially fatal ailment in January but is believed to have had it since birth.

=#FF0040His club bosses knew of his condition but rival players and teammates were not informed.

The 33-year-old prop played in Wigan's recent Challenge Cup final loss to St Helens but Wigan supremo Maurice Lindsay said Pongia would no longer be considered for selection until cleared by the Rugby Football League after UK newspapers revealed the player's identity at the weekend. Lindsay said Pongia had immediately notified Wigan upon learning of his condition and the club had sought advice from the Australian Rugby League.

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[size=150The rest of the Wigan squad was tested and inoculated against the disease[/size - without being told why. Lindsay said Pongia - whose brother in New Zealand has since learnt that he also has had hepatitis B since birth - was on the way to making a full recovery.

What about considering the rest of the super league players welfare instead of the clubs self protection.

One side of the story. Try this side as well although it probably doesn't fit your agenda?

"We have been completely open about this," Lindsay said. "The day we got to know about Quentin's condition we alerted Rugby League headquarters. I raised the matter at the conference of Super League clubs at the start of the season. I made sure that they were aware of the situation, although the one thing I could not do, legally, was to name the player."

Anyway this thread should probably be locked now. It's just going around in circles and better discussions are happening on other threads.

Just out of interest, why does Wane think Wakefield need to go to London?

To play a match at Milwall?

I think he had the challenge cup final in mind for some reason, it didn't make much sense to me neither.

Quote ="Judder Man"=#FF0000Our chairman more often says "whats on the tin" and won't resort to self pity and produce a "dark video". The RFL should be asking for medical certificates like our game against the Bulls many years ago, that scoreline of 62-0 is very damaging to the image of our sport as was the 75-0 and the 70-0 before it. . The dispensation to increase the playing roster should be only given on certificated evidence to the RFL........I hope this has been executed by due process and not by video presentation.'" Mr Teflon? Remember this www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/5138 When the actual figures were released, it was a loss of almost £1 million Talk about trying to pull the wool over fans eyes. Discussed at length here. Notice reference to offshore accounts/tax havens on page #3 www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... t=finances

Quote ="Judder Man"=#FF0000Our chairman more often says "whats on the tin" and won't resort to self pity and produce a "dark video". The RFL should be asking for medical certificates like our game against the Bulls many years ago, that scoreline of 62-0 is very damaging to the image of our sport as was the 75-0 and the 70-0 before it. . The dispensation to increase the playing roster should be only given on certificated evidence to the RFL........I hope this has been executed by due process and not by video presentation.'" Mr Teflon? Remember this www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/5138 When the actual figures were released, it was a loss of almost £1 million Talk about trying to pull the wool over fans eyes. Discussed at length here. Notice reference to offshore accounts/tax havens on page #3 www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... t=finances

Can people stay on-topic please. Any more Wigan v Stains bitchfest will see this thread closed and people taking a break.

Noted.

Cheers,
It was obvious that something was wrong on Sunday. I'm pleased that Radlinski has given that information. As I said it was the most unlike Wane team performance I have seen in probably 10 plus years of watching his various teams play. For some people to compare it to the Millward time is IMO completely off the mark. The club at that time were in a poor state (read Radlinkis book) which is a real eye opener.
I'm also of the opinion that the fans don't necessarily have the right to know every minute detail of what goes on inside any club, but after what went on over the last week it was probably better to get something out to us.

Because he's a fat idiot who's running out of excuses. Probably.

One thing I should have added. In all the gloom and despair Josh Charnley is deserving of some praise for the way he chased back from the opposite side of the field and held up a Wakefield player late on in the game. It would have been so easy for him to give up. Sadly his team mates let him down as Wakefield moved the ball to their right and scored from where Charnley had come from.

Wakefield have looked a good team for a while, Brian Smith got them in great physical condition before leaving.

Putting them up against a team with a bug going through the camp wasn't going to end well.

Quote ="Noel Cleal"Putting them up against a team with a bug going through the camp wasn't going to end well.'" On Thursday evening Wane said "illness will not be a factor" and "there will be no excuses from us being lethargic on Sunday" and "We’ll be fit and ready and really challenging Wakefield" www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-04-07-no-excuses Umm

Quote ="Noel Cleal"Putting them up against a team with a bug going through the camp wasn't going to end well.'" On Thursday evening Wane said "illness will not be a factor" and "there will be no excuses from us being lethargic on Sunday" and "We’ll be fit and ready and really challenging Wakefield" www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-04-07-no-excuses Umm

He is indeed deserving of praise but not perhaps for the ball he appeared to dive for,missed/ball boobled over him from which the Cowboys,sorry Wakefield (it was hard to tell at that point) scored,summed the day up i suppose.

Quote ="Wigg'n"On Thursday evening Wane said "illness will not be a factor" and "there will be no excuses from us being lethargic on Sunday" and "We’ll be fit and ready and really challenging Wakefield" www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-04-07-no-excuses Umm'" And if he had said, "i have lots of players ill" he would have been accused of making his excuses early.... Can't win can he..

Quote ="Wigg'n"On Thursday evening Wane said "illness will not be a factor" and "there will be no excuses from us being lethargic on Sunday" and "We’ll be fit and ready and really challenging Wakefield" www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-04-07-no-excuses Umm'" And if he had said, "i have lots of players ill" he would have been accused of making his excuses early.... Can't win can he..