There's so many people these days that are bloody snowflakes and are offended by their own shadow

This part of the poster is in poor taste, we’re not talking about a fan site or similar, it’s an official Wigan poster commissioned by the club, on display on club premises, would they have the still of the punch framed in the boardroom? I doubt it.

There are many acts of violence on a rugby field over the years, that Wigan players have perpetrated and been on the receiving end of, you celebrate overcoming these acts, not inflicting them. Farrell with his nose tapped up, Edwards at Wembley with a smashed cheekbone etc.

The 150 years theme has on the whole been handled well and reflects well on the history of the club, and I get that there are images and things were not proud of, but to reduce that image to cartoon strip art with thwack written on it cheapens the club, come on Wigan were better than

And yes redvee is a cesspit and comments on there about newton etc are vile, but saints haven’t turned them into a poster and hung them in the bar

It still is part of our history rather in bad taste but still part of it.

I apologise for my outburst, sorry.

its in bad taste and imo should be changed, if only to avoid any adverse publicity but there are some hilarious comments from holier than thou Saints fans and its great

One of the most famous images in our history.

Bad taste? Possibly.

BTW - LH was regularly knocked out because he couldn't tackle. Who is to say it was due to one punch?

Two

Dirty Wigan b*stard

That first punch is so under-rated, never gets talked about.

I'm surprised LH didn't retire due to embarrassment. Imagine having a 20 yard run up, smacking someone blindsided with all you've got and all that happens is they stagger and then knock you out

I personally wouldn't have included it but there we are.

Am I right in thinking Hohaia had concussion issues prior to that Grand Final? I think the punches may have exacerbated those issues but then he played on after for half a season? In some cases that half season was under sufferance too being "forced" to play and being encouraged to take pain meds to get through.

Saints themselves weren't exactly squeaky clean when it comes to the aftermath of the incident.

Despite all that, I reiterate the fact that I personally wouldn't have included it. It gets replayed a lot. RL/Wigan/That final got a ton of coverage because of it but yeah it shouldn't have been included for me.

It’s a huge moment in the history of the club, so I can see why it’s there. It’s a brave call to position it like that, in some sort of Batman cartoon style and they may have been wiser to do it with Flower head in hands walking off but it’s the clubs choice.

If only all the people whose pi*s it’s boiling on forums and social media would give praise when the club goes out of its way to celebrate opposition players milestones or show support to guys like Rob Burrow and Jack Johnson, I’d give their opinions more consideration.

A valid point.

Sinfield and Burrow are on there, but that gets no mention.

Lance was regularly knocking himself out because he could never get his head in the right place. Having watched his entire career, I refuse to beleive it was solely due to the Flower incident.

Yes he already had concussion issues. He didn't even retire. He played on and then used the incident as an excuse for retiring. He was still as cr@p after the incident as he was before it but it was an easy out to blame that. I suppose Goulding et al who are trying to sue the RFL are all Wigan's fault in some sort of guise too. I do love this self indulgent, houlier than thou attitude other sides have when it comes to Wigan. Just makes it all the sweeter.

I am the same as you, i re-iterate that i wouldn't have had it in too, but, hey ho, it is. There are real issues in the world at the minute. People are dying because of war in the Ukraine. People are dying of famine in Africa and Asia, the country is being driven into poverty and someone has drawn a cartoon in Wigan.

That's something which I forgot to include on my original post in this thread.

It's otherwise a superb image. Overall it's great and it's different. Opposition fans can see that and they'll look for the slightest chink in the armour so to speak to detract from the fact it's a great piece of artwork which the club can be very proud of.

EDIT - It also has a Leigh flag on it, oh dear. I retract the above. Great idea but poor execution seemingly.

For what it’s worth I’ve had my say on twitter today and I don’t agree with it. But I have said the piece on the whole is fantastic and the fan zone itself is a fantastic concept which looks to be thriving. 14,000 for a game v Toulouse is a great effort and it’s off the back of the community work Wigan have been putting in since Peet took over.

I’m surprised Wigan have included it. They’ve made quite a clear and obvious effort to clean up their perceived image with fans and the media and for me this goes against that. There’s quite a large backlash on social media from fans of all clubs (including your own) and for me it’s a bit of an own goal.

I’ve seen Wigan fans say “oh well it’s part of our history why should we ignore it.” Well it’s simple, I don’t think you need to celebrate or glorify certain incidents. The equivalent is Saints having a piece of art like this and showing Sean Long walking into a bookies. That would be tasteless and would get a hugely negative reaction from many on here no doubt and I would personally be a bit embarrassed.

Like I said it’s a great concept, a clever piece of work in many ways but the club have slightly taken the gloss off it by including that incident and unfortunately all the talk is now about Flower and Hohaia and not all the other fantastic memories on there.

Let's cut to the chase and call it what it is - people are saying they don't like it, because it's an easy shot to take a Wigan. Frankly, the majority of the g!imps moaning about it, don't really care about LOH. They just want to stick the knife into and this is an easy shot to take.

Massive own goal by the club as they didn't need to include it. That being said, the 'outrage' is laughable. Loads of people complaining about a cartoon on a wall in a club they don't support. Get a life FFS.

The same artist has done a Man U one and it includes Cantonas kung fu kick. It's part of history. The Wigan one includes Barry Macs "tackle" on Sironen, Farrell and Scully fighting, Tyrer being carried off after Hepworths assault, It happened as much as I wish it hadn't it's part of a history.

However if you look at that montage it's a very, very, very small part of it.

Well said.

A Saints fan crying foul about an incident that handed them the title on a plate.

Perhaps we should also have included Gareth Hock 'deliberately' throwing the ball at the little girl 20 rows back in the Saints stand, which McManus said he would personally investigate (and never mentioned again). What a joke.

To be fair one of the authors on Redvee has completely gone against the grain and stated on twitter that he has no issue with the inclusion and that previous Mish-mash works from other clubs have included incidents good and the not so good.

If saints do one I hope they put tommy the testicle tickler on it

How dare you. There has NEVER been ANY player for St Helens that has done anything remotely controversial or 'dodgy'

Hang your head in shame!!!

I think you are entirely missing the point, it was a violent act of thuggery on a player unconscious and defenceless. Flower served his ban showed remorse and gradually it received less attention over the years.

The Wigan culture and structure under Peet has been a good one this year and as a result their has been an element of respect in the direction they are going.

Then suddenly this poster was revealed and approved by the club recycling the incident as though it’s some sort of cartoon joke with the narrative KLONK. I,m quite suprised the way it has been presented.

I'm not too sure how to upload an image on here but surely the Mish mash has to be edited. There's also a Leigh flag on there!

Has anyone else spotted it?