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| Quote ="DaveO"Well Noble earned a Brownie point by dropping Coley. Can he earn another by playing Ainscough if Phelps is injured with a hamstring?
It would be ironic if injuries and suspensions delivered us a side selected as many of us would like '"
This indeed will be interesting in the lead up to the next game, hopefully the changes you outline will happen.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Aye just looked at the wigan site and Noble said he may well not be available for Friday. I'd be radical and play Shaun Ainscough on the wing if this is the case.'"
I only wish is that Noble isn't available on Friday. Congratulations to Matthew Elliot on building a great side at Bradford though.
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| The team I saw tonight wasn't like the old Wigan. To be honest, the more I watched the game, the more I thought that Brian seems to be trying to change Wigan into another Bradford!!
Last season Sean O' looked a lot like Stan Laurel (ask your granma/dad) but tonight he was more like Oliver Hardy. He's bulked your team up so much that they're too fat to get up quickly....with a better ref who plays to the rules more that Bentham did tonight....your team will concede more penalties than enough. Also, looks as if they want to go into the wrestling lark!! My team won tonight, and of course I'm happy that we've got away to a win this season but I like to see fast, entertaining rugby and the way Noble is turning Wigan into another Bradford, I can understand if the owner is looking to change coach before the season is much older.
Thanks to all the fans who made the journey over the Pennines, and hope you all got home safe........grannyfan Cindy
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| Lets not forget that this time last year Saints were enjoying a very poor start to the season.
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| He cut a strange figure before the match where he stood for a good 10 minutes watching Hull warm up, he only briefly sauntered across to where his own team were preparing but still didn't take his eyes of Hull. It looked odd and it's not something i've seen any other coach do, It's as if he was staring someone out . Surely he'd have been better served working on his own teams preparations???
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| Quote ="BESTY"He cut a strange figure before the match where he stood for a good 10 minutes watching Hull warm up, he only briefly sauntered across to where his own team were preparing but still didn't take his eyes of Hull. It looked odd and it's not something i've seen any other coach do, It's as if he was staring someone out . Surely he'd have been better served working on his own teams preparations???'"
But why would he want to break the habit of a lifetime?
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| Quote ="the hedonic calculator"But why would he want to break the habit of a lifetime?'"
Is that his normal routine?
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| Distancing himself from the team, and a generaly "hands-off" approach to coaching seems to be his normal routine.
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| What can Noble do with a team that is severely weakened? Lets actually be honest with ourselves, the current Wigan team is dire. So what do you expect? Noble can only use what he has, and he hasn't got very much.
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| next weeks line up for me...
1. richards
2. amos roberts
3. goulding
4. carmont
5. ainscough
6. sam tomkins
7. smith
8. fielden
9. riddell
10. o'carroll
11. tomkins
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14. mcillorum
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17. hock
couldnt choose between second rowers, but nobby seems reliant on playing all of them, i can see bailey moving to the centre.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"What can Noble do with a team that is severely weakened? Lets actually be honest with ourselves, the current Wigan team is dire. So what do you expect? Noble can only use what he has, and he hasn't got very much.'"
We have a team on paper, that is filled with quality NRL players England Internationals etc, Noble has a much better pool of players to pick from than most clubs.
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| Quote ="jonh"We have a team on paper, that is filled with quality NRL players England Internationals etc, Noble has a much better pool of players to pick from than most clubs.'"
Quality NRL players? Riddell an Roberts (who both may I add have question marks over thier heads by some fans). England Internationals are Lockers, Hock, Fielden(Not so much him but he's there and there abouts).
Yes we have some good players and one/two quality players, but you cannot say that we have a better squad than most other SL clubs.
Leeds, Sts, Wire, Huds are all before Wigan IMO. Probably even more clubs than that.
I agree that maybe Noble's tenure may come to an end at the end of the season or if results carry on, actually in the season, but when he asks for players and IL doesn't strive to sign them, can we really pin the blame on Noble?
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"next weeks line up for me...
1. richards
2. amos roberts
3. goulding
4. carmont
5. ainscough
6. sam tomkins
7. smith
8. fielden
9. riddell
10. o'carroll
11. tomkins
12. bailey
13. o'loughlin
14. mcillorum
15. palea'asenia
16. prescott
17. hock
couldnt choose between second rowers, but nobby seems reliant on playing all of them, i can see bailey moving to the centre.'"
Dropping Leuluai is not an option. He's one of very few that takes us* forward.
* 'Us' used at discretion of more committed fans
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| Quote ="JTB"Dropping Leuluai is not an option. He's one of very few that takes us* forward.
* 'Us' used at discretion of more committed fans
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| Quote ="AFewPintsLater..."I only wish is that Noble isn't available on Friday. Congratulations to Matthew Elliot on building a great side at Bradford though.'"
Ah the classic, 'it was all Elliots work'. Just like Anderson did no work at Saints.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well Noble earned a Brownie point by dropping Coley. Can he earn another by playing Ainscough if Phelps is injured with a hamstring?
It would be ironic if injuries and suspensions delivered us a side selected as many of us would like e.g.
Riddell injured forces TL and McIllorum to be the hookers so we get Sam T in the team at 6 and Smith at 7.
Mathers suspended means we get Roberts or Richards at full back.
Phelps out puts Ainscough on the wing.
Dave'"
It would be very ironic if that is the case.
Lets just hope Pat gets over his calf problem though.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Quality NRL players? Riddell an Roberts (who both may I add have question marks over thier heads by some fans). England Internationals are Lockers, Hock, Fielden(Not so much him but he's there and there abouts).
Yes we have some good players and one/two quality players, but you cannot say that we have a better squad than most other SL clubs.
Leeds, Sts, Wire, Huds are all before Wigan IMO. Probably even more clubs than that.
I agree that maybe Noble's tenure may come to an end at the end of the season or if results carry on, actually in the season, but when he asks for players and IL doesn't strive to sign them, can we really pin the blame on Noble?'"
Proven NRL Players.
Roberts
Riddell
Smith
Richards
Feka
Bailey
England Internationals
Fielden
Locky
Hock
World Cup Winning International
Thomas Leuleui
10 senior players there.
Add to this a wealth of junior Internationals, and International players from Junior Nations.
In reality we have a bloody good squad, but also in reality they are not performing.
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| We created enough chances to win that game. Goulding could have and maybe should have had three tries.
Roberts let the ball bounce, when he should have took it on the full (Mathers would have been hung out to dry by many on here if it had been him)
The loss of Phelps didn't help, with us having no back sub on the bench.
Ball retention in the second half was not good enough.
It's a game we could and should have won.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well Noble earned a Brownie point by dropping Coley. Can he earn another by playing Ainscough if Phelps is injured with a hamstring?
It would be ironic if injuries and suspensions delivered us a side selected as many of us would like e.g.
Riddell injured forces TL and McIllorum to be the hookers so we get Sam T in the team at 6 and Smith at 7.
Mathers suspended means we get Roberts or Richards at full back.
Phelps out puts Ainscough on the wing.
But seriously everyone was banging on about the depth of the squad so injuries to those players ought not to be a problem.
Dave'"
Not an Evertonian by any chance Dave?
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"Not an Evertonian by any chance Dave?'"
No. If I had to declare an allegiance to a soccer team on here it's Man City!
Dave
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| Quote ="AFewPintsLater..."I only wish is that Noble isn't available on Friday. Congratulations to Matthew Elliot on building a great side at Bradford though.'"
It makes you wonder if your statment is true you cos correct me if im wrong noble as brought every player or re signed them on new contracts.
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| I am not sure I agree with Nobby when he said our composure matched our effort towards the end.
Imo it was in the last quarter of the game our composure was lacking.
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| Quote ="Bolton_Warrior"I am not sure I agree with Nobby when he said our composure matched our effort towards the end.
Imo it was in the last quarter of the game our composure was lacking.'"
He said if they had matched. Not they did match.
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Quote ="AJ"He said if they had matched. Not they did match.'"
That's not the impression I get from reading his comments on the club site. The way I read it he says they matched one another.
www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4518
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Quote ="AJ"He said if they had matched. Not they did match.'"
That's not the impression I get from reading his comments on the club site. The way I read it he says they matched one another.
www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4518
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| Quote ="DaveO"No. If I had to declare an allegiance to a soccer team on here it's Man City!
Dave'"
Do you like underachieving clubs then?
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