If true we are on the road the nowhere.

I would have thought that Lydon(before he left) & Noble would identify who they want and Lenagan would go out and get them, but then again!!!!

Noble didn't sign (want) Riddell, it was IL.

Noble certainly didn't want Higham

Is this true mate is is it just a bit of guesswork that is doing the rounds?

It seems to be doing the rounds that Noble wanted somebody else. Maybe Buderus? Not sure but Riddell was not his first choice according to people who claim to be in the know.

Just to add i think the signing of Roberts a year early was maybe because we missed out on other players,Roberts became available so we thought we might as well take him now whilst we had no chance of anybody else.

Its also been stated that Noble was obsessed with signing Greg Bird so you would have to say he was not comfortable with both Smith and Lulu starting 6 & 7. I know Bird has not been allowed a visa anyway but our offer for him was rejected. Makes you wonder why we cannot compete with other teams money wise when it comes to signing good players.

What's Stuart Raper up to these days?!?! hed be a good replacement IMO and as far as im aware he is not coaching with any club?

True.

In your opinion - and leading on:



I beg to differ; I believe you're looking at a season by season basis; I'm viewing it on the whole of BN's reign, therefore I don't see us as 2 games in but into the third season.



Shame because this is at least intelligent discourse as opposed to 'JonH is talking cr*p' (inference - not actual quote) as we've had from some.



Don't know but I'd go with Raper over Hanley on the grounds that Raper's a proven top flight coach.

Does this mean that NickmanHighamlover is Brian Noble?!

No, Noble had targeted another hooker but IL wanted Piggy.

I don't think it's a case of Noble not wanting Piggy just more that he was his second choice. Couldn't get his first choice.

Because i have put my family first, i am now earning more money in a stable environment than i could ever hope to in rugby league, i was offered a position on the staff of a top SL club (not Wigan) which i refused due to the fact i have responsibilities and am not willing to risk these for trying to continue my coaching career, which ultimately is a very unstable profession and a change in personel can affect your career even if you are perfoming miracles.

Thats basically why in a nut shell.

I have been out of the game for 3 months by the way not a year.

Now i still await the answer to my questions about who is responsinble for picking the team, will have a major say in player signings and who is responsible from the balance in the dressing room and controlling these ego's and agendas if not the coach?

Wigans initial target was Buderus but Leeds offered him the big money so we went for our second choice in Riddell, a decision i do not think we will regret.

I have never said Hanley is a master coach but i think he is a good coach and also has the personality to succeed at Wigan something that Ian Millward did not and neither in my opinion does Noble, i continue to hear stories of unrest in the dressing room from numerous sources, also by looking at the body language of the players they are clearly not enjoying the game, have no enthusiasm etc have not for the last 2 years in general.

Its a pity you refused the job Jonh. You could of been the next GB coach. With your tactical knowledge we would be beating the Aussies in no time!

never claimed any such thing, you asked the question i answered, if you have a problem with that fair play now i still wait answers to the questions i raised, or do you think all is well at Wigan?

My opinion should not be taken any more or less seriously than any other poster on here it is all about opinions, but what does annoy me is when people fail to justify there opinion or deflect from the debate in question.

Stupid remarks like why do you not apply for the job just show the mentality of some posters.

jonh, i actually agree with where you are coming from, whilst i don't want us to lose next week, judging on what we have seen so far it doesn't really matter in the long run, because if we continue like this we are going to take a lot more beatings and probably heavier ones anyway. i don't think things are right at wigan, as you don't, but apart from doubting noble i also have big reservations about lenegan also. it is difficult to know which one is calling the shots.the fact that he declares himself a lifelong fan seems to deflect any blame for the way the club is being run from him. but the fact is since he took charge he has made some cheap make do signings which he is getting away with because of the previous owner and uncle mo, but he can't hide behind them forever.

Things I've been hearing from people within the club, has fueled my reservations.

Before anyone ask's no I am not willing to post what I've been told up on a public forum nor will I reveal the identity of the person involved.

and it was IL who signed Roberts!

TBF Roberts is a class act anyway. I'm sure Noble was more than happy to take him on.

Riddell, personally I haven't seen him play and thus cannot form an opinion on him.

My good god how many bloody games is he going to get?

remember when cas beat us at leeds ?

that effectivley ended JD ?

who would say that wasnt a bad thing ?

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Is Noble part of the recruitment process or does he coach whoever IL brings in?

A few games to see if he is brave enough to route out the non performers and bring in players who can do the job / select the correct team for the correct game.



Guess or literally?

Shaun Edwards, Wigan is calling, come home!!!

He won't.

Lam / Murray / Folkes will be our next coach.