My god !!

You actually believe this dont you

Its not a strange thing to believe you know.

Not all fans are as arrogant and one minded as Wigan fans and will have the same view as you. You had a good period years ago, remember it sure, but you are not the be all and end all of the game. Just like Leeds will come a cropper in the future you may well have your time again.


Right now Ablett is an integral part of a championship winning side. A side that is way ahead of its competition in the league it plays. That is good enough for me to rate this lad above the lesser oppossition players. And it was good enough reason for a twice championship winining coach and the current championship winning coach to rate him highly.

Please tell us who these good Leeds players are, as far as I'm told Senior, McGuire, Sinfield, JJB etc are average and the rest are kids.

So when Sinfield, Donald, Senior, Diskin, McGuire, Burrow etc played in non championship winning sides they must have been too! Great reasoning you've got there...or does it not apply to Leeds players?

again!! as i have said before the season started!!

its all big gun talk from the pie's. i see your all hard again due to a lucky win agains quins plus you stuck it to the worst bradford team in ten years!

ablett would walk into your team.

No he wouldn't.

Do keep up boy.

Where have I said your backrowers are poop?

I am not in to insulting the players. I have mearly pointed out the error of a couple of posters ways in believing that Ablett is not better than you have got.

ah thats right!! the all mighty wigan.

just as i thought.

you will eat your words on ablett.

i find it amusing how you pie's love to slag other teams players when your squad is jam full of question marks.

its a case of people in glass houses for me

None of your team have a World cup winner's medal or played in a world cup winning team. Therefore Tommy Leuleui is better than anyone in your team. Great reasoning!

Grow up.

Did DISA suggest that he had more talent in his left testicle than one of your players? very selective insulting there Phuzzy.

he only has a word cup medal because they moved him out of half back. when the play went through him they were bobins

No-one on here is saying anything of the sort. Back row is one area we are strong and we currently have 3 full internationals, and ex-kangaroo and last year's contender for young player of the year vying for positions. Just remind me how Ablett stacks up against this, and I'm not talking about your opinion here. Just because he plays for a team that is currently doing better than ours doesn't automatically make him a better player than the ones we have. Nowhere will you find any criticism of our back row on this board. The problems lie elsewhere. I would take all our backrowers over Ablett currently. Maybe that will change in future years as you say, but not right now.

What has that got to do with anything? Does he or does he not have a World Cup winners medal?

worst come back ever

It's a total irrelevence. By his reasoning, he has a winners medal, therefore he is better. You can't have it both ways. Either the argument holds for all players, not just Leeds players, or it doesn't. Which is it?

I don't remember saying that. I must have a memory block.

your right!! nothing at all!! is was a little snipe at tommy's lack of ideas as international half back

no that was us against manly in the WCC

But you admit that by your reckoning tommy is better than anyone in your side?

..and a world class hooker?

that fight is with someone else im just saying ablett is far better than a wigan fans left nut

ps im loving the spunk you pie's have right now.

nice to see a few of you pies have your mojo back

thats the spirt boys. lets hope it lasts longer than your pre season drum beating

But I think you'll find you jumped in on the argument, no?



I see you're not so sure about him being better than a Wigan fan's right nut though!

(just joking!)

We'll see Friday, won't we!

Any update on Ainscough or is Pryce going to get a chance to shine.

I think you need to read the posts again.

The championship winners medals were to back up the argument that the lad is holding is own in a championship winning team. We are talking about back rowers, and not halfbacks. We are talking about one player inparticular against a variety of your backrowers.

Other than the usual wigan fan arrogance of believing everything is better in cherry and white, I see nothing to suggest that Ablett would not walk straight into your team in the backrow position.

It is possible that Ablett will be playing in his backrow position this Friday. Watch the game properly then come back with something reasoned. It may be he has to do his sterling squad work and fill in at centre which then does not offer the same basis of opinion, but hopefully you will start to open your eyes to the game as a whole.

Ablett wouldn't get in our reserves never mind the first team!!