Fair play criticise but at least justify your stance.

I have justified mine.

Regards what would Hanley offer that Noble does not, RESPECT, and a whole lot more hopefully, but RESPECT is the key.

Once again i ask why? I have justified myself, you can have a pop but justify your stance like i have.

I can't be [id[/i repeating myself. If you are interested in my views look at my previous posts via viewing my profile. Easily done.

? why should i trawl your posts?

I want us to lose next week so that as a club we can progress.

What is your stance?

For me a loss next week will see us finish higher than if we win and Noble remains at the club.

Basically because it's late and I'm still a bit merry so can't be bothered writing an essay to justify my stance. Will do so in the morning though if it's bothering you so much. tbf you have a point.

I want us to win next week so that as a club we can progress.

I look forward to it.

I look forward to anyone trying to justify the loss of the first 2 games of the season and the garbage performances especially given the playing staf we have on the books.

I can certainly see what you mean....it would probably bring things to a head....but lose to cas

...then again

How will a win next week be a sign of progression?!

I would never want my club to lose, no matter what the circumstance, including if it cost St's a title.

Clearly their are selection issues, we need to give Noble games to see if he can address those and get us on a run, he has proven time and again he is capable of getting a side on.

I want my club to lose for the good of the club.

It is like saying i wanted Ian Millward to win a few games, as despite him losing the dressing room it is better him remain in charge than get the sack.


I want us to lose so the club can move forward. In the current state we will never move forward.

Well if we lose and he does not, come on quins (i think).

Give over. That is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever seen.

Fair play, personally i am more than happy for us to suffer in the short term for the impovement of the club.


if you are happy to continue in this vein of form that we have seen for the last 2 years fair play, i am not.

IF wigan win next week against cas it may well give them a bit of confidence. then the team might move on,
But as for saying you want them to loose for the good of our team is just pathetic, noble wont be sacked

we will beat you next friday - we are a new side full of confidence and quality so be warned we're coming to take two points on friday.

I can see why you're saying it but can't bring myself to wish Wigan lose. I too think Noble's time is fast running out and think we'd be better off without him. I'd like to see a Lam / Wane partnership (can't see Edwards just yet), perhaps with Faz coming back in a coaching role too.

Had you said c'mon Wakey, Hull or Quins I could have stomached it more but I can't bear the thought of Cas fans gloating after all the bleating they've done since they were relegated.

beat cas
beat quins
beat bradford

would probably put us around the top 4, come leeds away.

the league is not won in feb! it is won in october!

it bemuses me the lack of faith people have in the club- last night i saw a very even game, i saw some plays from wigan which where 10000000000 times better than wakefield, if it is the same come leeds, then it is time to seriously discuss where we are going but calling for the coaches head after TWO games is absolutely pathetic and shows why our fans are viewed as being so fickle!

Quins will beat Castleford easily imo.

Be fair, there have been many questioning Noble's appointment for a hell of a lot longer than 2 games.

Here is me thinking he had been coach for 2 and a half years?

I'll justify my POV. I can see where your coming from and why you want Cas to win.

By no means am I happy to continue this dire form, however I just think that after two games many people are reacting too hastily. I'm a Noble supporter and I'll be honest if this form does carry on it'll wear more and more thin. Where we are in SL in 3/4 games down the line will be an indication of where Wigan is going, and whether Noble is coming with us.

Surely the slate's wiped clean at the end of every season and we don't look at previous achievements/failures? After all Jon, you've been a loyal supporter of noble in the past 2 years, what you're saying is pathetic after 2 games

If that were the case the Noble supporters who crash out the old line time and time again, he saved us from relegation, look at what he did with Bradford etc etc would not have a leg to stand on.

A supporter of Noble?

Hence the wink.

I'm slowly coming round to your OP, short-term loss, long term gain etc.