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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"The only way I can tell the difference between the two is that Kath can spit further.'"
I'd make her swallow...
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Quote ="Fames"For all the Leeds trolls a simple question: What did you think of Peacock's attack to Sam's head and Senior kicking out and cutting Joel T's head in the CC QF last year, neither of which was dealt with sufficiently ( ie no sinbining or subsequent suspension) as well as Ablett almost taking off Sam T's head in the league game at Leeds in July - again ignored by Ganson ( who then sinbinned Coley for an alleged late tackle on Burrow thateven Eddie said was wrong), although Ablett was subsequently suspended.
The bottom line is Lima tackled Clarkson's leg - not his head!'"
All those incidents were looked at by the disciplinary...in every case you cite the RFL expert panel agreed that there was no intent even if there was reckless foul play.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1953
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1954
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2160
You really can't understand why Lima's challenge was so dangerous can you?
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Quote ="Fames"For all the Leeds trolls a simple question: What did you think of Peacock's attack to Sam's head and Senior kicking out and cutting Joel T's head in the CC QF last year, neither of which was dealt with sufficiently ( ie no sinbining or subsequent suspension) as well as Ablett almost taking off Sam T's head in the league game at Leeds in July - again ignored by Ganson ( who then sinbinned Coley for an alleged late tackle on Burrow thateven Eddie said was wrong), although Ablett was subsequently suspended.
The bottom line is Lima tackled Clarkson's leg - not his head!'"
All those incidents were looked at by the disciplinary...in every case you cite the RFL expert panel agreed that there was no intent even if there was reckless foul play.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1953
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1954
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2160
You really can't understand why Lima's challenge was so dangerous can you?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Congratulations, mate. You've completed a hattrick.
We already know that Leeds lack dginity in both victory and defeat. You, and others like you, have today managed to prove that they lack dignity when they draw as well.
Over 24 hours have passed, and you're still whingeing on the Wigan message board.
Sorry, but you didn't get the two points. Now man up and deal with it.'"
The thing is I really don't care about the result one bit - my initial reaction was ah damn it we threw that away but hey it was a good game and a good performance. Loosing in finals bothers me as does losing in knock out games but I stopped getting het up about league fixtures about 10 years ago....as long as Leeds are playing well and finish in a decent play off place I'll be happy.
What you can't fathom is that I'm a Rugby League fan first and a Leeds fan second and the reason I'm so p*ssed off about sh*t like Lima's challenge is that I think this sort of stuff (including chicken wings etc) is a stain on our great game - we're talking about the toughest team sport in the world and we don't need players putting "undue pressure" on joints or driving his shoulder into the side of a players leg to cause injuries. I live in the Yawnion heartlands and this sort of thing really does put people of our game...they used to have similar issues with "excessive" stamping and racking but to their credit they've made a real effort to clean it up.
...and no I'm not saying only Wigan do it (I'm fairly sure a Leeds player got a ban last year for a chicken wing - JJB?). But you do have very strong links to those sh*thouse tactic masterminds of Melbourne storm
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| Quote ="Omar Little"The thing is I really don't care about the result one bit - my initial reaction was ah damn it we threw that away but hey it was a good game and a good performance. Loosing in finals bothers me as does losing in knock out games but I stopped getting het up about league fixtures about 10 years ago....as long as Leeds are playing well and finish in a decent play off place I'll be happy.
What you can't fathom is that I'm a Rugby League fan first and a Leeds fan second and the reason I'm so p*ssed off about sh*t like Lima's challenge is that I think this sort of stuff (including chicken wings etc) is a stain on our great game - we're talking about the toughest team sport in the world and we don't need players putting "undue pressure" on joints or driving his shoulder into the side of a players leg to cause injuries. I live in the Yawnion heartlands and this sort of thing really does put people of our game...they used to have similar issues with "excessive" stamping and racking but to their credit they've made a real effort to clean it up.
...and no I'm not saying only Wigan do it (I'm fairly sure a Leeds player got a ban last year for a chicken wing - JJB?). But you do have very strong links to those sh*thouse tactic masterminds of Melbourne storm'" The only reason you and everyone else is kicking off about it is because we get coaches and players crying to the media about it
It's like they have spat there dummys out they need to grow the **** up
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Before I respond can you tell me which version of the word "held" you want to use this time so we're all clear when your poor whinging is pulled apart yet again?
I've no idea what they put in the water in Wigan as I pay my water bill to Yorkshire Water. Fortunately it looks like the reservoir I get my water from doesn't have the mercury problem yours obviously does.'"
I've quite clearly spelled out what I mean but you have no intention to have a rational discussion
Guess it's not the water then...inbreeding, schooling, something else... :-p
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| Quote ="king warrior"The only reason you and everyone else is kicking off about it is because we get coaches and players crying to the media about it
It's like they have spat there dummys out they need to grow the **** up'"
Yeah and coaches like Brown and Potter's opinion has nowt to do with it being dangerous and unsporting
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Yeah and coaches like Brown and Potter's opinion has nowt to do with it being dangerous and unsporting
'" My point being if it was a salford player or crusaders player this thread would be 1 or 2 pages long
Stop jumping on the bandwagon and let the rfl deal with it
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| Quote ="king warrior"My point being if it was a salford player or crusaders player this thread would be 1 or 2 pages long
Stop jumping on the bandwagon and let the rfl deal with it'"
Yeah, because less people would have been watching...
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| Quote ="Omar Little"I've quite clearly spelled out what I mean but you have no intention to have a rational discussion
Guess it's not the water then...inbreeding, schooling, something else... :-p'"
You are wrong FACT
He was moving - FACT
He was not held - FACT
His tackled leg was OFF the ground when Lima went in for the tackle - FACT
Lima's initial impact was on the hip/thigh - FACT
Show me any rules where that is an ilegal tackle. It happens a thousand times a week at every level in the game.
Just because you want it to be true doesn't make it so. Repeating it over and over again does not make it true.
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| Quote ="Donna"You are wrong FACT
He was moving - FACT
He was not held - FACT
His tackled leg was OFF the ground when Lima went in for the tackle - FACT
Lima's initial impact was on the hip/thigh - FACT
Show me any rules where that is an ilegal tackle. It happens a thousand times a week at every level in the game.
Just because you want it to be true doesn't make it so. Repeating it over and over again does not make it true.'"
Hey there Donna, you must have gone to the same school as our lass. When she goes off on one she sounds just like you babe!
Doesn't matter what she's wittering on about, if she adds "and that's a fact" onto the end of a sentence that somehow magically makes it so!
Must be a woman thing......
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"icon_biggrin.gif Hey there Donna, you must have gone to the same school as our lass. When she goes off on one she sounds just like you babe!
Doesn't matter what she's wittering on about, if she adds "and that's a fact" onto the end of a sentence that somehow magically makes it so!
Must be a woman thing......
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It happens when you are talking to the imature.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"The thing is I really don't care about the result one bit '"
Did you manage to keep a straight face when you posted that?
Roughly 32 hours later, and you're STILL whingeing about it.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Quote ="Omar Little"The thing is I really don't care about the result one bit '"
Did you manage to keep a straight face when you posted that?
Roughly 32 hours later, and you're STILL whingeing about it.'"
Go on then - find a single post, or for that matter even a sentence, where I've whinged about the result
[size=85(or save yourself the time...there isn't one)[/size
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| I'm sure 4-5 Leeds players came swinging in as well, rushing in from 10 metres away. Surely we should see a couple of 1 match bans there if the RFL are to be consistent (ala Sam Tomkins vs Hull)???
I'll not hold my breath though.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Go on then - find a single post, or for that matter even a sentence, where I've whinged about the result
[size=85(or save yourself the time...there isn't one)[/size'"
You're whingeing now!
If not, why are you still here ... hanging around on another's club's message board two days after the event? Still wanting to talk about 'sh*thouse tactics'. Responding to every single post that challenges you, as if anyone actually cares what a troll like you thinks.
Man up and get on with your life.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I'm sure 4-5 Leeds players came swinging in as well, rushing in from 10 metres away. Surely we should see a couple of 1 match bans there if the RFL are to be consistent (ala Sam Tomkins vs Hull)???
I'll not hold my breath though.'"
i wish they did but no-one swang just handbags from big girls
only ablett had a cheeky little push/slap on back of limas head while he was down
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You're whingeing now!
If not, why are you still here ... hanging around on another's club's message board two days after the event? Still wanting to talk about 'sh*thouse tactics'. Responding to every single post that challenges you, as if anyone actually cares what a troll like you thinks.
Man up and get on with your life.'"
Not [uabout the result[/u
Haha and don't worry I am getting on with my life...it takes very very little mental effort to joust with the intellectuals on here
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| Quote ="MattyB"I'm sure 4-5 Leeds players came swinging'"
I suppose 0 is pretty close to 4-5 on the infinite number scale.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"it was intended to cause injury to his opponent.....its illegal, simple as !!'"
99% of tackles are.
its not tick and pass
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I suppose 0 is pretty close to 4-5 on the infinite number scale.'"
In addition, I see Radford was binned on his very first tackle for 'dangerous' play?
No doubt his 'impeccable' record will go for him again on Tuesday night?
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| Quote ="Omar Little"I've quite clearly spelled out what I mean but you have no intention to have a rational discussion
Guess it's not the water then...inbreeding, schooling, something else... :-p'"
You just change the goalposts when your errors are picked up, so yes it is useless trying to have a rational discussion with you. Your whinging across this board since Friday night just shows how much it's still gnawing away at you that your team could hold onto an 18 point lead with 15 minutes to go.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Not [uabout the result[/u
Haha and don't worry I am getting on with my life...it takes very very little mental effort to joust with the intellectuals on here
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...and indeed you've made very very little mental effort with your p!ss poor posts on this thread. Well done.
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| I'd hope everyone would agree that they like to see hard but fair play. I certainly don't want playmakers targeted illegally or taken out unnecessarily. That includes Tomkins.
FWIW I didn't think either side played that well (although for Leeds it was a major step up from where we've been so far this year), and neither side was particularly dirty. Niggly yes, but that's up to the ref to police.
Anyway, Leeds have the panto villain of Bailey (maybe Cross will join him) and Wigan have Tomkins and Lima. Every side has them.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I'd hope everyone would agree that they like to see hard but fair play. I certainly don't want playmakers targeted illegally or taken out unnecessarily. That includes Tomkins.
FWIW I didn't think either side played that well (although for Leeds it was a major step up from where we've been so far this year), and neither side was particularly dirty. Niggly yes, but that's up to the ref to police.
Anyway, Leeds have the panto villain of Bailey (maybe Cross will join him) and Wigan have Tomkins and Lima. Every side has them.'"
I'd agree with all of that.
When I watched it on sky (away for the weekend for bloody mothers day ) I really didn't think it was that bad, it wasn't untill Clarkson fell awkwardly that it even looked that bad. It does seem that the rfl are trying to outlaw that tackle and so technically the yellow was right, although I'd argue that Lima hit the thigh and then released. Had it been a shoulder in to the knee and had Lima not released when Clarkson went down then it would have been much worse. IMO challenges like that don't even compare to the likes of Abletts assault to Sams head in the league match last year, let's put it into perspective eh?!
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