Are you sure you just don't mean the [isilly[/i season ?!

You're not allowed I'm afraid.

The general rule of RLFANS is that because someone from the team you support embarrasses themselves, then ALL fans of that team will have been saying the same thing if you go onto another board and read about it.

Not my rules, just the way it is.

I really don't think I can take 4 months of this.

I suggest we just close the board down until the end of January?

Really? You were much better on the day? Struck me as a game of two halves where you battered us in the first half, and vice versa the second. But then again, you didn't actually break our defensive line in attack, and looked pretty clueless imo.

But not bitter at all... clearly....

enjoy you well deserved victory

also... MOT

What a load of rubbish! It's a knock out competition and as such who wins it has as much to do with luck, refs calls and so on as the challenge cup.

The team who won the challenge cup was never seen as the best side in any particular year because everyone knew that it was a knock-out competition. It was still always a great thing to win but people managed to keep it in perspective about what it said about a team. That perspective has gone out of the window with the play-offs it seems. It is just another knock out competition.

There have been upsets in the Challenge Cup ever since it has existed. That is the nature of knock out rugby but no one was daft enough to go in and suggest those causing the upset were the best side in the competition that year or necessarily were a great team. Leeds caused an upset two years running and have more in common with Sheffield Eagles than being a great side.

Those who think the play offs are somehow different ought to read the Emperors New Clothes tale by Hans Christian Anderson.

And before any Leeds fan says "sour grapes" I have held this view since 1998 whether Wigan won it or not.

Its topics like this that make me want to cry

It's a great spectator-sport though, just sit back, point & laugh

Except it's a cup competition where finishing higher up the league gives you home advantage, means you need play fewer games and against teams who finished below you and you can lose and still progress - other than that they're identical. Luck and refs calls played a part in Wigan finishing top, it played a part in some of the games Leeds lost sending them down to fifth, they are, in short, a part of each and avery game - to ignore the influence they have on the end of season placings negates your argument IMO.



It's how the season ends and has been for some time. It's not separate at all. The season ends the first weekend in October, not at some point in September. The best analogies that I've seen compare it to a long distance race or a Grand Prix - no one cares who's in front going in to the last lap, it's crossing the finish line that counts and everyone knows where the finish line is.



So the players in this Leeds side who've done it when it counts five times in six years don't make a great side? They've got more in common with a fluke? You're demented. Leeds beating anyone is hardly an upset, sometimes unexpected perhaps, but to compare it to the biggest shock result in the final for as long as I can remember makes a complete mockery of any argument you have. Leeds are the very definition of a great side, a champion side who can win against just about anybody in just about any conditions - there's plenty of evidence to back this up - how do you support your argument?



Those who think the season ends at round 27 need to consult the schedule at the start of each season.



Being wrong for a long time doesn't make you any less wrong.

And the one try they did get...weren't they offside as every team is when defending their own line?

probably, but everyone is offside always, can't be picky about it, sometimes it goes for you, sometimes it goes against you, guess in a 1 point defeat it hurts a little bit more though, but that's life

That opening post is one to treasure

They've been awfully lucky to have won 5 out of the last 6 grand finals and make the last three challenge cup finals. They also must have been lucky to win the WCC on a few occasions as well!

Leeds know the rules and know they don't need to leave too much energy in the weekly rounds. If the rules changed next year back to a first past the post system does anybody seriously think Leeds would finish 5th again? Not a chance in hell! I'm not saying they're purposely losing games but they obviously struggle to find that motivation in the weekly rounds but when push comes to shove they're quite clearly the best side in the league.

I don't understand why some people struggle to acknowledge that. It's a massive source of pride for me that Wigan are the only team in 6 years to beat them in a knock out play off game and that we beat them in a challenge cup final.

Those victories look better and better everytime they take out another Grand final.

Now the season is over I do like fishing. If it were as easy as this, they would call it catching, not fishing.

I blame Gelling.

Oh dear!!!!

I think the reason we lost to Leeds was more down to the week off and us not being up to speed in that first half that lost us the game (we looked rusty) along with Tomkins being injured. If Tomkins plays Brett Finch's pass goes to Tomkins who looking at the replay has a big hole to run through. Unfortunately Murphy wasnt in the right place and Finch's pass went straight to a Leeds player.

Nothing to do with luck or rub of the green.

A super post thank you!

RLFANS rule no.1 confirmed.

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Being reading from some not Wigan fans that Leeds should not be champion as Wigan won 5 more games than us.

During the season Leeds played 37 games and won 25. Wigan played 33 games and won 25. Leeds had a longer and more difficult season so to win was even more impressive. Statistic's are wonderful.

Being reading from some but not all Wigan fans that Leeds should not be champion as Wigan won 5 more games than us.

During the season Leeds played 37 games and won 25. Wigan played 33 games and won 25. Leeds had a longer and more difficult season so to win was even more impressive. Statistic's are wonderful.

Nice name. You obsessed with leeds?

Thank you.



No.

Lets hope this username last longer than your last one on here.

We don't have linesman in Rugby League,we have touch judges. HTH captaindan.

I think the person who wrote this needs to read it again now that his anger and obvious disappointment may have reduced a little because he sounds rather silly and that's one on the worst posts ive ever seen.

Is that Whittle holding the scissors ?