I hope so. He made a hopeless tackle on Dave Hodgson last Sunday. Really embarrassing effort and he knew it.

He certainly did, but Pryce got blamed, by a lot of the Wigan "fans"

Pryce is facing a losing battle.

He is jeered before he even touches the ball.

TBF Phelps' effort was no better.



True. I'm not the biggest Pryce fan, personally I don't think he should of been anywhere near the 1st team on Sunday, but him being jeered by sections of our "fans" is doing nothing to improve his confidence.

Who would you have put there considering who was missing?

I'd be tempted to say Iain Thornley.

BUT IMO he isn't yet ready for SL.

So in answer to your question, I don't know. The only option is Pryce.

I think you've dis-credited my opinion without even trying Rogues!

If Nobles moves over the border as exected i'm sure he'll be tempted to take a few with him, maybe loans of micky mc and pryce.

He can take Pryce, but not Micky Mc

Depends if we get a high quality half back in and need to shift tommy, a years loan maybe is a good option even though he's ready for SL. Similar to Scott Moore situation Iguess.

Yeah but the difference between Moore and Micky Mc is MM had far more SL experience than Moore before he went to Huds.

Personally I don't see the need for MM to go out on loan as we play far better when him and Riddell are rotating.

A certain very expensive prop would go down extremely well, thanks very much!

I'm fed up with all this talk of loaning out young players to other SL clubs. Wakefield finished higher than us and see something in these 2, Mossop and Goulding flourished at other clubs, why can't we develop our "golden generation" ourselves? Or are we doing it to keep higher paid / overseas players happy?

On dodgy hodge as well!!!! If your embarresed by HIM you know somethings wrong!!!

Dodgy must be loving amos for making him look good!

Very good point mate!! The whole point of loaning players out to other teams is because they aren't quite good enough to make the grade at your club and to develop them to the next level.

Id say its virtually unheard of for a club in any sport to loan out a player to a club who finish higher than them in the league and shows that something is very wrong in the team selection at the said club!!

The fact that Mossop was good enough for a sustained run at huddersfield, and vievers and davies are deamed good enough for wakefield, teams finishing above us in the league, yet the players are not considered first team for us shows something is not quite right in the selection policy!!

If we're looking to loan out next season at least do it right and bin off riddell, fielden and roberts to salford, celtic, and harlequins respectively!

If we are going to loan out players to another club because we cannot give them game time I would rather they go to Wakey than anywhere else!

Felt really sorry for him on Sunday. He is such a frustrating player to watch. The last few weeks his form has picked up and he has been playing a lot better. One minute he can make a break and make us good yards from a kick return and then next miss a tackle on David Hodgson.

I have no doubt he will be a great player for us next season. A new coach will tell him how it is, perform or we have Ainscough waiting to take his place.

So to at the time retain the services of Goulding and Mossop, we would have to have dropped one of Gleeson and Carmont in the case of Goulding and Hock, Bailey, Hansen, Tomkins or Locky in the case of Mossop.

Which players would you have dropped to retain them and what would you have done with them?

In the case of Vievers we would have to drop 1 of Roberts, Richards and Phelps, this is of course without considering using Ainscough.

For Davies to get first team action it would be at the expense of Fielden, Feka, Coley, Prescott, O'Carrol and from time to time Mossop.

A team that finishes higher than us in the table does not always have a full team of individuals performing better than the team finishing lower in the table.

Hudds had a relatively weak backrow with injuries and even at full fitness it is not one of there stronger areas, Salford had no real quality centre and finished way down on us anyway.

Its about balance, someone s always going to miss out, by loaning the players that are up to SL level but not with the current Wigan team out we are building that golden generation, and it is in fact in my opoinion the only way to do it, given the weakness of the Reserves comp.

It's not focussed on dropping players for the sake of it although there are several in the team who should justifiably have been dropped this season, it's about giving others their chance over a full season, maybe in 2-3 game spells or off the bench. There are always going to be injuries through the season but we prefer to rotate the same 19 rather than bring others in.

We haven't given anyone homegrown a 1st team debut this season other than Ainscough, we should have earmarked at least 4 to have a bite at 1st team rugby.

S. Tomkins? An easy game against Whitehaven in the CC could hardly be classed as 'given a chance'.

Exactly. Sam should have played some more games last season.

Pryce has been given a chance this year, Tomkins has been given a chance, Flannagan, Aiscough, Mossop was allowed to prove his worth at another club prior to returning to us which was justified given the strength we have in the secondrow.

All this talk of giving or not giving young lads a chance is just that talk. It is too difficult to assess them in the reserves we have a pretty good team apart from in the Props where we are week. Both Prescott and O'Carroll have had a chance in the Props this year as has Mossop.

It is unrealistic to give them all a shot, hence exposing them to first team rugby and giving them a run is the idea way to go about it. 3 games in a year you may as well not bother, let them go and assess there ability to cope elsewhere, where is the risk or problem with that? I cannot see one personally, in fact i think it is a great way to go about it and a way that all clubs with strong youth teams seem to go about business.

Flanagan is a perfect case. Knocking about the place for 2 - 3 years without a sniff of 1st team rugby. Injuries forced Noble to give him a shot -against Leeds, Saints and Warrington in the semi and he acquited himself well on debut at the very highest level. So if he can play at that level why the hell wasn't he given a chance earlier? The club doesn't seem to have a clue when a player is ready for the 1st team, hence the delayed progress of Tomkins, Ainscough, Mossop, Flanagan, etc.

Oh and Leeds' policy of bringing their youth through doesn't seem too bad.

Leeds regularly send player out on loan from there juniors.

Flanigan was playing first team at Halifax last year hence earning his stripes and developing as a player, he was not ready for first team in my opinion prior to this move, his time at Halifax saw him play in an increasingly intense comp over and above the reserves.

Who would you have dropped/replaced Flanigan for? Locky our club captain, or when he was injured Joel Tomkins a young lad brought through from the reserves (after a loan spell with Widnes).

Perhaps he could have gone in at 6, but then again we had Barrett playing there, players like Barrett cannot be dropped or rested.

This reminds me of our great teams, people didn't want to get rid of Hanley but this enabled us to bring Clarke through, didn't want to get rid of Potter but we did this and brought Betts through. Kiss / Dermott likewise. Edwards, Farrell, Robinson in very young and it didn't harm them. If you're standing still in sport you're going backwards.