How can you say that?!?!? We Leythers just love them!

The irony of it all. You accuse Wigan of looking after themselves when sides like Cas, Wakey and a few others have kept the cap so low it is now the cause of yourselves losing you best player. You have done nothing as a club to combat it. You lose 1 player due to your own inadequacies and it seems some blame Wigan for it.

To give clubs like Cas a chance to compete with Wigan, Saints, Leeds, wire etc we have lost Sam T, Joel T, Faz, Burgess, Jason Robinson and a few more. Seriously you need to looking at why your owner did not use the marquee cap space to keep Solomona.

He's probably using all his spare cash on duct tape to keep that "stadium" of theirs upright.

Quote ="OzWarrior"Is anyone aware of what the current level of funding provided to clubs by the RFL is? This is always going to be a significant portion of revenue for the clubs and until this increases on a major scale we'll always be one step behind. The next NRL funding agreement for example is muted to be around 130% of their current salary cap (currently $6.1m) per season. Are we even in the same ball park?'" I think the SKY funding is £2.446m pa. which is also about 130% of our salary cap. In The RFL's annual report from last year (media.therfl.co.uk/docs/RFL%2020 ... Report.pdf) they say that distributed funds are at their highest ever with unprecedented financial stability. Yet clubs still can't pay our players what they deserve.

Quote ="OzWarrior"Is anyone aware of what the current level of funding provided to clubs by the RFL is? This is always going to be a significant portion of revenue for the clubs and until this increases on a major scale we'll always be one step behind. The next NRL funding agreement for example is muted to be around 130% of their current salary cap (currently $6.1m) per season. Are we even in the same ball park?'" I think the SKY funding is £2.446m pa. which is also about 130% of our salary cap. In The RFL's annual report from last year (media.therfl.co.uk/docs/RFL%2020 ... Report.pdf) they say that distributed funds are at their highest ever with unprecedented financial stability. Yet clubs still can't pay our players what they deserve.

SL clubs have all benefited from youngsters coming through the Wigan system. If it wasn't for Wigan (and Saints and Leeds) bringing players through, the game would be in a damn sight worse state than it is. We don't expect thanks, but a moment's reflection wouldn't come amiss.

As for the bus-trip, that of course was pre-planned months ago. Yes, the timing is unfortunate, but we're not fortune tellers. Do you really think we'd deliberately set ourselves up as the big bad bogeyman, just to annoy Cas fans?



News just in: the world does not revolve around you!

Quote ="Tigerade"Most of the animosity from other clubs like Cas Tigers toward Wigan comes from your total disregard of anything other than yourselves. A typical example been the stunt you pulled this week with the "bus trip" to Sale Sharks. It's OK to point at your success been the factor - but take a step back and think. Why are you the most despised club in SL ?'" I think you need to read this to understand that the whole trip was planned months ago. www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016- ... ere-blog-2 I don't agree with them going but can understand why as part of the "tour" they decided to go ahead with it as they wouldn't have been able to get a change of venue at such short notice.

Quote ="Tigerade"Most of the animosity from other clubs like Cas Tigers toward Wigan comes from your total disregard of anything other than yourselves. A typical example been the stunt you pulled this week with the "bus trip" to Sale Sharks. It's OK to point at your success been the factor - but take a step back and think. Why are you the most despised club in SL ?'" I think you need to read this to understand that the whole trip was planned months ago. www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016- ... ere-blog-2 I don't agree with them going but can understand why as part of the "tour" they decided to go ahead with it as they wouldn't have been able to get a change of venue at such short notice.

Because we are the to dogs, past, present and future. And the best most small clubs can hope for is to pick up a meaningless league win against us.

Regards,

Typical arrogant Wiggin fan.

Teams like Cas, Wakey & Huddersfield bring nothing to the super league party whatsoever . They are like leeches just sucking the life juice from the game but give nothing back in return. Cas own ignorance is the reason that they are in this position, they are taking legal action knowing that they can't win, ala Bradford bulls and the iestyn harris saga and we all know what happened to the bulls after that.

You answered your own question-Success!

I must admit though I've never quite got the hatred from Cas fans towards us. You normally only get that level of animosity from local rivals or teams your challenging for trophies against so it seems strange that a team from the other side of the Pennines who haven't won anything since Jesus was a lad dispises us.

I'm with Cas all the way on this issue but I must admit attitudes like yours do make a small part of me chuckle at the situation. If the boot was on the other foot a much higher percentage of your fans would be revelling in it.

Having attended the Cas Super 8's game as I walked away from the ground you would have thought they had just won the World Club Championship the way the majority were singing and dancing in the streets whilst antagonising any visible Wigan fan wearing colours. It was embarrassing.

I'd just like to say well done on your two points that day, at the same time I can smugly sit here knowing we are current Champions.

I'd be interested to know what teams do bring something to SL?
Perhaps you would prefer four or five teams playing each other every week?
Cas couldn't give Solomona what he demanded and stay under the salary cap. Nor should clubs be held to ransom by players who have years remaining on an existing contract.
You'll also find it was Leeds Rhions who persued legal action against Bradford. Just look what happened to Leeds after that.....

In answer to another poster, I'm not sure I'd describe the attitudes of Castleford fans towards Wigan as hatred.
However, Wigan are my least favourite team for a few reasons:
1. The seemingly deliberate tactics aimed to injury opposition players by targeting the knees.
2. Shaun Wane's arrogance and some of his comments about Castleford.
3. Sam Tomkins' immature and childish behaviour.

As such, I enjoy beating Wigan more than any other team.

If the quality of rugby was superior then i would rather have five teams play each other four times a year than to have standards constantly dragged down by other clubs who's only ambition is to merely survive. My point regarding Bradford was that as a result of legal action taking place it left the club broke, but if Cas want to go down that route then it is their prerogative. As for your comments regarding the hatred towards Wigan, again this is a forum and its your opinion however the points you make really do sum up everything about yourself and your club.

1. The seemingly deliberate tactics aimed to injury opposition players by targeting the knees

1 Wigan player faced a charge for that all last season. Now I might have missed something not certain but the only charge for that for Wigan was TT against Leeds.

For Cas Ben Crooks against Wire applying pressure
Andy Lynch against HKR applying pressure
Matt Cook against Wire applying pressure

Those I feel are upto the Super 8's starting last season. Now tell me who needs to get their own house in order first before coming on here spouting off your whiter than white. As I said all sides do it your just blinded to what your side does. Can not remember another Wigan player getting banned for applying pressure to a joint in the Super 8 though maybe we can call Flowers one to Patton's nose but it was tame compared to what Chase did in a Cas shirt 2 or 3 years ago.

16 games a season? Seriously?
I don't think you'll find Cas merely aspire to survive. Over the last few year we have made a cup final and finished 4th-5th for three seasons.
Bradford had legal action taken against them, so very different to Cas who are instigating legal action.

I thought is was better last year, but it's an aspect of Wigan's approach I have disliked since McGuire was in charge.

I din't think Cas bring nothing to the comp, and at times last season they played as good footy as anyone. But I certainly find their team easier to like than their fans.

Of course a 4-5 team comp is crazy talk anyway.

My comment regarding 5 teams was somewhat tongue in cheek. Cas have played some good football especially last season and were good to watch, my issue is that they appear to continually want to stay in their comfort zone, which in itself is fine but not when it forces all the other clubs to stay the same, the game needs to grow and with that the salary cap, clubs need to continually evolve and rebrand themselves but all too often clubs just stagnate and are happy to make up the numbers. If you want to make up the numbers then fine, there are two lower tiers in our sport to do that but please don't stop the others who want to move onwards and upwards.

I'm with you on increasing the cap, but the game as a whole can't afford to take it to the level if the NRL or RU.

I agree and that's why we need to make the game as attractive as possible, not only for the supporters but the players as well. Alas I feel we will never be able to compete until we can improve our national side, reverting back to GB is a step in the right direction.

I'd completely forgot they even beat us tbh

Sam Tomkins lost you that game. I'd never seen such a petulant performance from any player and he completely lost his focus on the game. Once he was injured you seemed to be a better team.

Translation: I got called out with facts so I will just make something up to try and save face

Regards

King James

I fear you give too much weight to online personas.

Regards,

Princess Tiger.

What about the previous game at Cas earlier in the season when Tomkins won wigan the game with that brilliant defensive display, particularly his tackles on Solomona.

He was MoM that game, for sure.
I remember speaking to people afterwards and commenting that once he rediscovered his attacking game he would be the best player in SL by a mile.
Unfortunately, it never happened and his defence seemed to fall off a cliff too.
Later in the year, he seemed so frustrated that he couldn't do the things he could a couple of years ago. Hopefully, he'll come back stronger next season and this will help his petulance.
As long as he has a nightmare against us.....