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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If it comes down to it and Edwards isn’t coming and we want a long term coach, I’d be looking at Danny Ward, Ian Watson, Shane Flanagan or that bloke who’s working a day a week in Scottish Rugby Union (doubt there’s any chance of that whilst Lenagan is here though).'"
On the outside looking in, the $64k question is "Edwards is he coming or not?"
Unless you know the answer to that question, and, perhaps, even Lenagan has not got the answer, then your coaching situation cannot be resolved for 2020. This has a knock on effect for 2019. Also, if there is uncertainty around who the future coach is, this has to have an unsettling influence over the playing squad. We've been through a similar situation while waiting for Tony Smith to take over from Jimmy Lowes. The intermediate period between Paul Cullen and Tony Smith didn't go very well. It improved once the right man was at the helm, but it took time for his influence to turn things around.
There's a lot of possible options:
Stick with Lam until the end of 2019.
Sack Lam and bring another babysitter in until Edwards arrives in 2020.
Sack Lam and look for a long term coach and forget about Edwards.
Stick with Lam and give him an extension should Edwards decline your offer.
Lenagan and Edwards need a chat, sooner rather than later.
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| Edwards clearly holds the cards and can leave us dangling as long as he wants.
We’ve left ourselves wide open to it and as you say there’s not much we can do about it in the short term unless Edwards makes his position clear.
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| I honestly don’t get all the hysteria. I’ve seen enough to believe we’ll still make top 5 and have a good run on the cup. Calls for Lam our are far too premature.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"I honestly don’t get all the hysteria. I’ve seen enough to believe we’ll still make top 5 and have a good run on the cup. Calls for Lam our are far too premature.'"
Wake up. That was a dream.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wake up. That was a dream.'"
You still here then? You said you were only on here because you had us coming up. That games gone now you can crawl back under your stone.
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| What happens if Edwards does come next season and we lose five out of our first six games, do we get out the gallows for him also? Edwards may also be out of his depth we won’t know until next season but for me Edwards is just as much a risk next season as Lam is this season.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"You still here then? You said you were only on here because you had us coming up. That games gone now you can crawl back under your stone.'" I'll be off soon enough then back for magic.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I'll be off soon enough then back for magic.'"
Do you promise?
I’ll humour you for a bit. How is our start under Adrian Lam any different to your start under Price? Your early season form was utter rubbish but then you improved. We have been utter rubbish but I’m confident we’ll improve.
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| Quote ="hatty"What happens if Edwards does come next season and we lose five out of our first six games, do we get out the gallows for him also? Edwards may also be out of his depth we won’t know until next season but for me Edwards is just as much a risk next season as Lam is this season.'"
Exactly. Good players do not always make great coaches and Edwards has been away from the game for so long that he could easily end up being a disaster. He is completely untested as a RL coach and i have no idea why anybody would be willing the throw him straight into the head coaching position. He should of at the very least worked for one year as an assistant even if its only to refresh his knowledge of the game.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Exactly. Good players do not always make great coaches and Edwards has been away from the game for so long that he could easily end up being a disaster. He is completely untested as a RL coach and i have no idea why anybody would be willing the throw him straight into the head coaching position. He should of at the very least worked for one year as an assistant even if its only to refresh his knowledge of the game.'"
He’s one of the greatest players ever to play rugby league but as you rightly say, great players don’t always make great coaches. (Cunningham is a perfect example). However, Edwards is a proven, consistenty successful coach at the very top of club and international rugby union. He’s won several championships and has clearly demonstrated his leadership and player management abilities. The fact he hasn’t coached in RL isn’t a significant issue for me as he’ll have the likes of Lockers to support him.
He’s a student of the game and he’s known he’s been coming to league for over a year and I’m sure he’ll be watching more RL than any of us and learning the finer details of the modern game.
WHEN Edwards does come, (which I’m sure he will), I’m confident he’ll have a very positive impact on our club and the SL competition as a whole. As I say, his proven leadership ability and consistent success at the top level is what sets him apart from most others and why I have faith in him.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Do you promise?
I’ll humour you for a bit. How is our start under Adrian Lam any different to your start under Price? Your early season form was utter rubbish but then you improved. We have been utter rubbish but I’m confident we’ll improve.'"
No very different other than the results.
Wire were without the spine for preseason extended break after England duties and Roberts was a late arrival, seemingly having more ons and offs that Shaun Edwards!
We had structures coming together as Price concentrated only on defence. Our attack was a very instructed 5 drives and a kick. That went on for about a month before we started to see some handling.
Wigan however look lost without any structure....more spray and pray.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"No very different other than the results.
Wire were without the spine for preseason extended break after England duties and Roberts was a late arrival, seemingly having more ons and offs that Shaun Edwards!
We had structures coming together as Price concentrated only on defence. Our attack was a very instructed 5 drives and a kick. That went on for about a month before we started to see some handling.
Wigan however look lost without any structure....more spray and pray.'"
I can’t believe you’re still sticking to the ‘we were rubbish in attack on purpose’ nonsense, nobody can give a single ounce of credibility to that argument. It’s time for you to go back to your board and stop cluttering ours up with cack.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Exactly. Good players do not always make great coaches and Edwards has been away from the game for so long that he could easily end up being a disaster. He is completely untested as a RL coach and i have no idea why anybody would be willing the throw him straight into the head coaching position. He should of at the very least worked for one year as an assistant even if its only to refresh his knowledge of the game.'"
Agreed.
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| All this talk about Edwards now makes me wonder if we're losing the plot.
Surely the question is not whether he'll be coming or not, but whether we want him?
If he's going to behave like this - i.e. keeping whole of Wigan dangling while he struggles to make his mind up (having already given us an assurance that he was coming and then seemingly renaged on it) - do we really think he'd be good for us? Could we ever trust him as head-coach? He may be a scholar of the game, but he's also clearly a bit of an idiot.
Besides, the NRL season has now started up, and once again we're seeing standards of rugby and fitness that far surpass our own, let alone any of the average-standard crud we see in Six Nations RU. The last time we made a serious dive into the NRL, having sourced, tracked and recruited a promising young coach, it turned our fortunes around overnight. We went straight away from also-rans to champions.
For me, that should be where we're looking, the NRL. Not RU, which only ever gets better in its own imagination.
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| Interview on Granada reports Lam said if asked he would stop longer than 12 months
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I'll be off soon enough then back for magic.'"
This guys the Warrington version of the Yellow Giraffe, remember him, spent more time on our board than he ever did on his own. Just ignore him and eventually he'll scuttle off somewhere else, Redvee hopefully with all the others no-one wants to listen to.
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| OK let's cut to the chase...
Edwards is looking dead in the water....
Who would you be looking at as coach for 2020?
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| Can’t we just ban the pr!ck?
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| Kieron Purtill
has more coaching experience than most top flight coaches, hes from Wigan , a lifetime supporter and would be a real dark horse, yes he wont appear on any radars, apart from assistant jobs but I think English RL clubs are looking ina lot of the wrong places.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"OK let's cut to the chase...
Edwards is looking dead in the water....
Who would you be looking at as coach for 2020?'"
Steve Price..........just to p!ss you off
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"Steve Price..........just to p!ss you off'"
We can’t go for Price because we can’t afford another slow start in 2020 and according to Dickie he’s famed for tactically losing his first five games to build defensive structures (summat like that anyway).
Shane Wane all day long for me. His achievements of the last 7 seasons look all the more incredible when you look just how average some of these players look without him. He lost top players year in year out and just dealt with it. I very much doubt it happening under Lenagan but sincerely hope I’m wrong.
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| Quote ="Azul"Can’t we just ban the pr!ck?'"
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