I suspect Hohaia's attack was prompted more by the hit to the back of the head he had just received from Ben Coward.

I suppose it's quite easy calling a six foot seventeen stone prop a coward from the safety of your keyboard eh?

Wrong again.

Excellent post.

I don't suppose you'll get much response though because deep down they will know you are right.

When LH deliberately looks at the line of BF's run and then steps across the front of him to obstruct him. Then he has to expect that a 17 stone prop will most likely run through him rather than around him. If turner got a knocked out of the way a couple of times maybe the refs would pick up on his blatant obstructions. Or he might think twice about it.

Nothing wrong with running across Flowers line in open play as long as there was no contact, LH is a lot faster than Flower and I think he knew he had no chance of running around him so in total frustration he punched LH to the side of the head from behind causing LH to go to ground. All started by Flower and Finished by Flower.

its obstruction

Yes it is .......... but I'd be just as happy calling it him to his face........... not that you'll choose to believe that, nor (unfortunately) am I likely to get the opportunity.

Well I'm impressed

Have you got a 10 inch dong too?

If you look carefully, you will find it is actually his wife's keyboard.

She lets him use it when he is a good boy.

You can get the opportunity easily. Just hang around outside the DW, or your own stadium, on match-day. The teams don't enter by magic carpet. They get off coaches and walk across the forecourt. Loads of fans know this, because they line up for autographs etc. You can even use a mobile phone to immortalise your moment of excellence, and you can then post it on here - just to prove you aren't a cowardly, full-of-sh** little creep.

From the one who is quite happy dishing out his own personal attacks.

I'm not going to manufacture a meeting by hanging around outside grounds, that would make me a stalker; nor am I going to purchase a mobile phone just so I can post something on here.
I'm merely saying that if I met him, and the opportunity arose, I'd be quite happy to say that his act was that of a thug and a coward ............ what's he going to do? ........... hit me and prove me correct.
However, in 30+ years of following the game, I've only met 2 Wigan players, so as I said, it's unlikely to happen.

You don't need to convince me. I know without a shadow of a doubt that it won't happen.

If Hohaia knew he was faster than Flower then why obstruct him? he could (and should have just claimed the ball) I suggest you read Stuart Cummings article in this weeks League Weekly (page 11 of the Grand Final review) where he discusses the officiating of the game.

Well I'm impressed

Do you really think you'd be telling him something he doesn't already know? If he was going round singing from the roof tops you'd have a case, as he himself and the club have said, he knows what he's done and he's distraught about it.

Just let it go, everyone seems to have done apart from certain supporters.

If you look at the replay Hohaia was turning anti clockwise to face the ball he only took one stride on his left foot and moved about 3 feet, he didn't have time to see Ben Flower and obstruct. Ben Flower knew Hohaia was there and rather try and run around took the opportunity to punch the side of the head, minutes before kick off Ben Flower was punching the padding on the goal post, boxer style, so I summise he was "pumped up" big time.

I,ve seen Ben Flower do this quite a few times this season going to the head and also late, to date he's done it to Mounis ( Catalans) O' Brien (Warrington) Walsh (St Helens) and its not gone unoticed by Browny hence his media article.

In the final Flower should have just pushed Hohaia out of the way, probably there would be a good chance Hohaia wouldn't have retaliated and you would have been superleague champions.

If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU

If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU

Quote ="jaws1"If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU'" The commentary team stay level without the faux outrage that we have to hear. Interesting on the length of ban, 14 weeks reduced to 10. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... arsan.html

Quote ="jaws1"If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU'" The commentary team stay level without the faux outrage that we have to hear. Interesting on the length of ban, 14 weeks reduced to 10. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... arsan.html

Quote ="jaws1"If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU'" We have a winner Blimey

Quote ="jaws1"If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU'" We have a winner Blimey

That is outrageous! What ban did he get? Absolutely horrendous.

No world wide coverage and full back page spread...no agenda from the papers, honest.

This has been my point all through this Ben Flower saga. The ridiculous comments from people (most of whom should know better!) has bordered on the hysterical. As that clip quite clearly shows this was nowhere near 'the worst thing ever' comments that people were dragged into making. Only the media gang bang that went on differentiated this incident from hundreds, if not thousands, of others that have occurred in sporting arenas the world over. I hope people take a look at that clip, as well as the many others that have surfaced over the last week or so, and start to get some perspective. Somehow, I doubt it though.