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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Peet's only been away from the club for about a year over the last 13 so it wouldn't have been that difficult.
Hopefully the club considered Ciraldo at Penrith but I doubt it.'"
Any idea what happened with Peet at Sale? He was barely there long enough to have a serious impact.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Guess I'm not quite convinced of that - I know its being sold as such but Wane won't have taken the role without significant influence. As I said in an earlier post there will need to be clear boundaries established in order for this to work.'"
I’m not fully convinced either being totally honest but I fully agree, there has to be boundaries and limitations both ways
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"The same level of euphonic response by some supporters is no different to that of three seasons ago when Lam succeeded Wane as Head Coach.
However, many other supporters will be disappointed that a more experienced and proven successful Rugby League Head Coach has not been appointed, especially one from down under.
But, I supposed with the present poor financial state of the club, beggars cannot be choosers!'"
It’s not really euphoric but I see your point. That team (bar Briers) isn’t who I’d have chosen to be brutally honest, you’re description re disappointed fans is fairly accurate and I’d be an outright liar if I didn’t say I was a little disappointed we hadn’t gone for more experience.
That being said this coaching team, whether it’s who we’d chosen or not, whether we’re disappointed or euphoric deserves our full backing and support. Ultimately we don’t have a crystal ball, would a proven coach have worked? There’s a chance, and a good one at that, it wouldn’t. Will this work? I’d say there’s about that same chance.
You may be right with your last comment, as disingenuous as it was intended to be. But if this is who we have gone for, and it works, it’s an absolute master stroke from IFL and KR. And even you would have to admit it.
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| My take is, I'll be satisfied if we at least play some reasonably attractive attacking rugby, that makes going to games a pleasure to look forward to, not something undertaken more out of a sense of duty. Lets face it, ball in hand on the attack, we were terrible this year. Opposing defences coped with us with ease. In fact, it was probably the easiest gig they had all year.
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| Quote ="moto748"My take is, I'll be satisfied if we at least play some reasonably attractive attacking rugby, that makes going to games a pleasure to look forward to, not something undertaken more out of a sense of duty. Lets face it, ball in hand on the attack, we were terrible this year. Opposing defences coped with us with ease. In fact, it was probably the easiest gig they had all year.'"
No exaggeration to say that I’m struggling to think of a worse attacking team I’ve seen in my 30+ years watching the game. I watch football and rugby and I’ve sat watching Wigan Athletic at times thinking ‘we’ve no chance of a goal here’ especially in the premier league at places like Old Trafford or Anfield but the last few months of this season watching the rugby was the first time I’ve sat thinking the same in this sport. It’s far easier to score a try than it is a goal in football, so you accept the odd 0-0 here and there in football but it was a weird feeling in the rugby. I sat at Hull away and the Leeds semi fully expecting the games to finish 0-0. That Leeds semi probably would’ve done had Halsall been on the wing.
It should be an absolute doddle for Peet to improve on that. He’s probably in a fortunate position in some ways because if we average 15-16 points per game next season, the fans will think he’s a genius.
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| I don't think there's any danger of the fans thinking Peet is a genius, and although, as you say,[i It should be an absolute doddle for Peet to improve on that[/i, realistically, Peet is going to be hampered by a lukewarm reception from the start. For my part, I'll wish the coaching team all the best and hope for better things next season (can hardly be worse, surely?), and I am heartened by the inclusion of Briers.
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| Quote ="moto748"I don't think there's any danger of the fans thinking Peet is a genius, and although, as you say,[i It should be an absolute doddle for Peet to improve on that[/i, realistically, Peet is going to be hampered by a lukewarm reception from the start. For my part, I'll wish the coaching team all the best and hope for better things next season (can hardly be worse, surely?), and I am heartened by the inclusion of Briers.'"
It is tongue in cheek but realistically he isn’t coming in to the environment that Lam came in to. We were champions at that point and people expect that to just carry on, even though you’ve lost Wane, Tomkins, Bateman and Sutton and not replaced them properly. That’s not a defence of Lam, he was dreadful but at least Peet comes in to a club now where people (like you said above) are going ‘well I’ll be happy if it’s at least more entertaining than last season’. His appointment may bring mixed views but if we show some early signs of recovery, he’ll start to build goodwill pretty quickly IMO. He’s a proper Wiganer Matty Peet, a normal lad from Hindley and I wish him nothing but the best.
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| Of course I fully agree, but many fans may not share our view. At this time of year, after the NRL GF and the SL final at the weekend, it always seems a long few months for me until the new seasons start up, glumly watching rugby union highlights shows (and if ever a sport benefited from 'highlights', it is union!), hoping to see the occasional bit of flair (which you do, occasionally, from time to time, to be fair). I would say, too, that I've read a lot of comments lately about 'the ever-declining standard of Superleague', but it does seem to me that those words ring a little hollow if coming from fans whose team only manage 15 points per game. Much better to criticise the standard when you're at the top, isn't it? So let's achieve that standard before we decry it too much!
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| Having watched Mat Peet interview on Wigan TV he comes over as confident person. He wants to get the best out of players if he thinks they are slacking he said that they will told they have to improve. He did say if they dont want to wear the Wigan shirt with pride then they will be shown the door .He wants to integrate more with the Wigan public both on and off the field .He has inherited a lot of Wanes attitude and it was him who wanted Lee Briars as coach having worked with at International colts level.in ILs he is hailing the coaching set up as a new venture there are no backs coach and forwards coach both Lockers and Briers are both assistants and will be picking the team together.
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| Lets be honest here. Wane wanted the job and wigan wanted him but given the playing roster he knew it would be pointless and damaging to his CV as even Wane couldnt do anything with such a poor team
So Peet takes over in the interim with Wane assembling the squad he wants over the next 2 to 3 years. Then Peet gets sacked once Wane has his ready assembled squad.
Peet gets some valuable first team coaching experience so will be able to get a head coach position at someone like Wakey, Wane gets to coach a really good wigan squad.
Everyones happy!
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| With the exception of Lee Briers replacing John Winder and the departure of Lam, many supporters will have noticed that the coaching team is more or less the same one which has been there for the past few seasons since Maguire left.
The proof of the pudding of any improvement will be in increased attendances, results, standard of play and above all, a return to the winning of trophies for which Wigan has been renowned over the years.
The pressure is now on Matty Peet and his coaching team!
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"It’s not really euphoric but I see your point. That team (bar Briers) isn’t who I’d have chosen to be brutally honest, you’re description re disappointed fans is fairly accurate and I’d be an outright liar if I didn’t say I was a little disappointed we hadn’t gone for more experience.
That being said this coaching team, whether it’s who we’d chosen or not, whether we’re disappointed or euphoric deserves our full backing and support. Ultimately we don’t have a crystal ball, would a proven coach have worked? There’s a chance, and a good one at that, it wouldn’t. Will this work? I’d say there’s about that same chance.
You may be right with your last comment, as disingenuous as it was intended to be. But if this is who we have gone for, and it works, it’s an absolute master stroke from IFL and KR. And even you would have to admit it.'"
The masterstroke by IL and KR has been to get Sean Wane to return to the club!
We can only hope that things return to normal as a result of the decision!
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Lets be honest here. Wane wanted the job and wigan wanted him but given the playing roster he knew it would be pointless and damaging to his CV as even Wane couldnt do anything with such a poor team
So Peet takes over in the interim with Wane assembling the squad he wants over the next 2 to 3 years. Then Peet gets sacked once Wane has his ready assembled squad.
Peet gets some valuable first team coaching experience so will be able to get a head coach position at someone like Wakey, Wane gets to coach a really good wigan squad.
Everyones happy!'"
Absolutely Steph
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"With the exception of Lee Briers replacing John Winder and the departure of Lam, many supporters will have noticed that the coaching team is more or less the same one which has been there for the past few seasons since Maguire left.
The proof of the pudding of any improvement will be in increased attendances, results, standard of play and above all, a return to the winning of trophies for which Wigan has been renowned over the years.
The pressure is now on Matty Peet and his coaching team!'"
On the contrary, I don’t see much pressure other than a few disgruntled fans. All he needs to do is improve on last season, which with a point per game average as low as ours isn’t going to be too difficult. Most common sense and level headed Wigan fans will tell you that the squad we have assembled for 2022 isn’t a title or trophy winning squad so expectations in that regard are almost non existent. The year after remains to be seen but that’s when I’d expect us to be realistically challenging again. I am more than happy to be proved wrong on that obviously.
The coaching team is completely different from when Mags left and you know it. That’s an outrageous lie Ruddy. The sole survivor from Mags’ coaching team is Wane. Peet was working in the youth system and had nothing to do with seniors. Even for you that’s an outrageous and blatant lie.
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We can only hope that things return to normal as a result of the decision!'"
Wane isn’t in charge. Peet is. I can already see what line you’re going to take even if Peet leads us to a clean sweep of everything. Give it a rest.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"On the contrary, I don’t see much pressure other than a few disgruntled fans. All he needs to do is improve on last season, which with a point per game average as low as ours isn’t going to be too difficult. Most common sense and level headed Wigan fans will tell you that the squad we have assembled for 2022 isn’t a title or trophy winning squad so expectations in that regard are almost non existent. The year after remains to be seen but that’s when I’d expect us to be realistically challenging again. I am more than happy to be proved wrong on that obviously.
The coaching team is completely different from when Mags left and you know it. That’s an outrageous lie Ruddy. The sole survivor from Mags’ coaching team is Wane. Peet was working in the youth system and had nothing to do with seniors. Even for you that’s an outrageous and blatant lie.
Wane isn’t in charge. Peet is. I can already see what line you’re going to take even if Peet leads us to a clean sweep of everything. Give it a rest.'"
I am well aware that apart from Wane, the 'new' coaching team were not members of the coaching team when Maguire left, but the fact remains that with the exception of Briers replacing Winder, the new coaching team with the exception of Wane, but including Peet and O'Loughlin were members of last season's coaching team under Lam.
And I have never said that Wane is in charge of the 'new' coaching team, only that it is a masterstroke on the part of Lenagan and Radlinski to get Wane to return to the club in whatever capacity they see him doing a useful job for the club.
And as I have also said previously, hopefully, the 'new' coaching team will improve results, return the squad to the level that supporters expect and win trophies again .
Hope that clarifies what I said.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"I am well aware that apart from Wane, the 'new' coaching team were not members of the coaching team when Maguire left, but the fact remains that with the exception of Briers replacing Winder, the new coaching team with the exception of Wane, but including Peet and O'Loughlin were members of last season's coaching team under Lam.
And I have never said that Wane is in charge of the 'new' coaching team, only that it is a masterstroke on the part of Lenagan and Radlinski to get Wane to return to the club in whatever capacity they see him doing a useful job for the club.
And as I have also said previously, hopefully, the 'new' coaching team will improve results, return the squad to the level that supporters expect and win trophies again .
Hope that clarifies what I said.'"
It does. Still doesn’t change you said it was the same coaching team as when Maguire was here.
And I couldn’t agree more with your last sentence.
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| I don’t know it has been mentioned anywhere but I’ve only just seen it mentioned for the first time that Peet has signed a three year contract. It is hidden in the middle of an article with Peet in the Wigan Post. That’s good backing for him and I’m pleased we’re not just going year to year. The club needs to start looking forward with long term certainty and stability.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I don’t know it has been mentioned anywhere but I’ve only just seen it mentioned for the first time that Peet has signed a three year contract. It is hidden in the middle of an article with Peet in the Wigan Post. That’s good backing for him and I’m pleased we’re not just going year to year. The club needs to start looking forward with long term certainty and stability.'"
I agree we need that stability and that contract gives Peet a chance to make improvements over a period of time. However we have to be strong enough to bite the bullet if we need to (and I really hope it doesn’t come to that). We weren’t when it came to Lam and it set us back further IMO. If IFL/KR knew Peet was going to take charge, and was already at the club, it just provides more mystery as to why Lam wasn’t sacked and replaced with Peet, even if the coaching staff appointments didn’t immediately follow.
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| With the financial state of the club over the the last couple of years or so due to the Pandemic and a reported seasons lost of over £400.000, I would have thought it was obvivous why the club did not sack him during his period of contract.
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Far cheaper to allow a person to play out his contract without possible compensation and also not pay out an additional contract to another person to replace him in the circumstances.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"With the financial state of the club over the the last couple of years or so due to the Pandemic and a reported seasons lost of over £400.000, I would have thought it was obvivous why the club did not sack him during his period of contract.
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Far cheaper to allow a person to play out his contract without possible compensation and also not pay out an additional contract to another person to replace him in the circumstances.
Wigan Warriors are not a Football Club!
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| Warrington let their coaches contract run down, Saints did the same but Woolf had the 3rd year option in his favour.
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| Quote ="jaws1"Having watched Mat Peet interview on Wigan TV he comes over as confident person. He wants to get the best out of players if he thinks they are slacking he said that they will told they have to improve. He did say if they dont want to wear the Wigan shirt with pride then they will be shown the door .He wants to integrate more with the Wigan public both on and off the field .He has inherited a lot of Wanes attitude and it was him who wanted Lee Briars as coach having worked with at International colts level.in ILs he is hailing the coaching set up as a new venture there are no backs coach and forwards coach both Lockers and Briers are both assistants and will be picking the team together.'"
Why hasn’t he stepped in the last few years if people have been slacking? He’s been in a fairly senior position so what’s stopped him?
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| Quote ="nathan_rugby"Why hasn’t he stepped in the last few years if people have been slacking? He’s been in a fairly senior position so what’s stopped him?
Briers and Lockers picking the team? Where has that been said?'"
Maybe he did step in and the head coach ignored him?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Anyone???'"
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