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| Quote ="jonh"I love "debating" with you as you always break it down to the lowest common denominator, (always a sign you are in trouble by the way
) Watch a League game in the UK and watch how the players drift towards the touch line generally. Now watch a union game look at a straight runner or a centre who takes the line on in an attempt to give a player space.
O'Driscoll has grea feet, good hands and a rock solid defence. He has played against a Kiwi legend in Tana Umanga who was the rugby player of his generation in both codes and was a superb league player untill he chose union and had him in his back pocket.
The lad is very very talented, but you chose to call him average.
I expect nothing less from you.
Robinson played with some great centres and he rates him as one of the best PLAYERS he has played with, but obviously you are right as usual, even in the face of superior evidence.....still a dyslexic lad may have made a spelling error so let focus on that!
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If I had one leg I wouldn't challenge someone to a 100 yards race.
If I were "dyslexic" I wouldn't enter into an intellectual debate on an internet forum.
Ok so let's put this into context.
OD vs Carmont
OD vs Senior
OD vs Meninga
OD vs Connolly
OD vs Gidley
OD vs Kenny
OD vs Miles
OD vs Bell
Do I REALLY need to make the point?
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| Quote ="jonh"Umanga who was the rugby player of his generation in both codes and was a superb league player untill he chose union and had him in his back pocket.
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Did he ever play a first grade match though in League?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"If I had one leg I wouldn't challenge someone to a 100 yards race.
If I were "dyslexic" I wouldn't enter into an intellectual debate on an internet forum.
Ok so let's put this into context.
OD vs Carmont
OD vs Senior
OD vs Meninga
OD vs Connolly
OD vs Gidley
OD vs Kenny
OD vs Miles
OD vs Bell
Do I REALLY need to make the point?'"
Why you mentioning players who aren't currently in Super League? I haven't seen anyone say he's better than Meninga, Bell, Kenny or Miles were. I have seen people say he's better than Senior and Carmont because he is.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"If I had one leg I wouldn't challenge someone to a 100 yards race.
If I were "dyslexic" I wouldn't enter into an intellectual debate on an internet forum.
Ok so let's put this into context.
OD vs Carmont
OD vs Senior
OD vs Meninga
OD vs Connolly
OD vs Gidley
OD vs Kenny
OD vs Miles
OD vs Bell
Do I REALLY need to make the point?'"
I'm sorry but you can be dyslexic and intellectual so there is no need for personal insults
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| Quote ="The Jolly Ginger Giant"I'm sorry but you can be dyslexic and intellectual so there is no need for personal insults'"
Who's insulting?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"If I had one leg I wouldn't challenge someone to a 100 yards race.
If I were "dyslexic" I wouldn't enter into an intellectual debate on an internet forum.
Ok so let's put this into context.
OD vs Carmont
OD vs Senior
OD vs Meninga
OD vs Connolly
OD vs Gidley
OD vs Kenny
OD vs Miles
OD vs Bell
Do I REALLY need to make the point?'"
Your opinion of yourself astounds me!
Is this what you consider an intellectual debate?
I think OD is a superior player to Senior and Carmont, not the rest, but is that such a crime?!
Does that make him not a quality player?
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| Quote ="Conroy"Why you mentioning players who aren't currently in Super League? I haven't seen anyone say he's better than Meninga, Bell, Kenny or Miles were. I have seen people say he's better than Senior and Carmont because he is.'"
Ok
Senior
Gidley
Carmont
I dare say that even if someone like Bailey were to line up against him, OD would get NOTHING out of him.
Dumped on his ar$e and nullified.
As I say though, it's only a matter of time, given the CC that this will NOT be the case.
The CC will ensure that RL is years behind RU.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Who's insulting?'"
You are! You make a point of poking fun at his spelling and grammer mistakes due to his dyslexia
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"If I had one leg I wouldn't challenge someone to a 100 yards race.
If I were "dyslexic" I wouldn't enter into an intellectual debate on an internet forum.
Ok so let's put this into context.
OD vs Carmont
OD vs Senior
OD vs Meninga
OD vs Connolly
OD vs Gidley
OD vs Kenny
OD vs Miles
OD vs Bell
Do I REALLY need to make the point?'"
OD v Carmont. Driscoll due to ability to break the tackle and bring others in. Also in defence hes awsome
OD v Senior. Driscoll if i judged them both on current from. Though Senior 2-3 years ago was a mirror copy of him as equally as good.
OD v Gidley Gidley the best centre weve got in SL. And only Lyon has been better than him.
The rest:
Hes on par with Connolly
Of the others id have him on par with Connolly. But the others are better
And i cant believe youve not put down the player i regard as the best centre of the last 20 years. And hers me thinking you know your Rugby League.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Ok
Senior - BOD every time
Gidley - Tough to say really
Carmont - BOD every time
I dare say that even if someone like Bailey were to line up against him, OD would get NOTHING out of him.
Dumped on his ar$e and nullified.
As I say though, it's only a matter of time, given the CC that this will NOT be the case.
The CC will ensure that RL is years behind RU.'"
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Ok
Senior
Gidley
Carmont
I dare say that even if someone like Bailey were to line up against him, OD would get NOTHING out of him.
Dumped on his ar$e and nullified.
As I say though, it's only a matter of time, given the CC that this will NOT be the case.
The CC will ensure that RL is years behind RU.'"
For somebody who claims to be an intellectual you are either igonrant or bias.
You have to loom at the testomony of players like Robinson.
You have to loom at his footwork, his defence his leadership and his ability with ball in hand. If you think that is "average" then you do not have a clue.
So average infact Saints wanted to sign him over Gidley!
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| Quote ="jonh"Your opinion of yourself astounds me!
Is this what you consider an intellectual debate?
I think OD is a superior player to Senior and Carmont, not the rest, but is that such a crime?!
Does that make him not a quality player?
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Not at all.
For proper debate come visit me on the history forum. But you WILL have to get someone to check your spelling and grammar as they don't tolerate sub standard posts.
On your post it's no crime at all. That's the purpose of a forum to discuss and debate.
I take your view on board. I disagree with it but, would defend your right to post it.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Not at all.
For proper debate come visit me on the history forum. But you WILL have to get someone to check your spelling and grammar as they don't tolerate sub standard posts.
On your post it's no crime at all. That's the purpose of a forum to discuss and debate.
I take your view on board. I disagree with it but, would defend your right to post it.'"
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And they must tolerate people who make outlandish claims and are incorrect if you are tollerated on there, then refuse to back down even in the face od solid more knowledgable evidence.
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| Quote ="The Jolly Ginger Giant"You are! You make a point of poking fun at his spelling and grammer mistakes due to his dyslexia'"
Not at all.
You are missing the point. Without wishing to bore people on here, PM me and I will explain my stance.
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| Quote ="jonh"?'"
Hes losing the arguement and is making the usual Italian manouver.
Runaway to somewhere else.
White Flag in the air
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| Quote ="jonh"For somebody who claims to be an intellectual you are either igonrant or bias.
You have to loom at the testomony of players like Robinson.
You have to loom at his footwork, his defence his leadership and his ability with ball in hand. If you think that is "average" then you do not have a clue.
So average infact Saints wanted to sign him over Gidley!
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I have to "Loom"??????????
As a Wigan fan I bloody wish Stains HAD signed him over Gidley
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| Quote ="tank123"Hes losing the arguement and is making the usual Italian manouver.
Runaway to somewhere else.
White Flag in the air'"
Its a tactic i have come to both appreciate and love about BK, he has the abdominal fortitude of a wet paper bag when his stance is questioned or challenged.
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| Quote ="tank123"Hes losing the arguement and is making the usual Italian manouver.
Runaway to somewhere else.
White Flag in the air'"
^^
What?
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| And the player you missed for me was
Steve Renouff now how the hell did you miss him out.
Or were you away when he played for us.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"I have to "Loom"??????????
As a Wigan fan I bloody wish Stains HAD signed him over Gidley'"
For an intellectual is it that hard to realise that in the context of the post that the m key is next to the k key.
If you fail to understand that maybe you are not as clever as you think.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"^^
What?'"
Its your best trait. Get proven wrong and then vanish.
Its a classic BK tactic.
In this case there is only opinion, but as usual you have to deflect from the evidence others put forward and return to petty nit picking to back up your stance.......a classic BK.
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| Quote ="jonh"For an intellectual is it that hard to realise that in the context of the post that the m key is next to the k key.
If you fail to understand that maybe you are not as clever as you think.
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It's actually below and to the left...........
You cannot expect the reader of your posts to interpret and correct your attempts for you.
Don't you check your posts before you post? (or get someone else to check them for you?)
Anyway, I'm off to bed.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It's actually below and to the left...........
You cannot expect the reader of your posts to interpret and correct your attempts for you.
Don't you check your posts before you post? (or get someone else to check them for you?)
Anyway, I'm off to bed.'"
The real signs of an intellectual here.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It's actually below and to the left...........
You cannot expect the reader of your posts to interpret and correct your attempts for you.
Don't you check your posts before you post? (or get someone else to check them for you?)
Anyway, I'm off to bed.'"
Brett is the K key next to the m key?
A simple yes or no will do.
I do not expect one, as usual i expect another classic BK deflection.
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