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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Looks like I've hit a nerve '"
You didn't hit a nerve mate your just talking utter balls
Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Why are you mentioning Bailey and Diskin?'" because you mentioned the player that didn't play and the only 2 players that might have played that didn't were disco n bailey!! Unless you mean the England lads which would be garbage too!!
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"Although it's wrong to take drugs and I'm a Leyther, I can't help but feel sorry for Hock, he cleary can't do anything else other than play rugby. There is no way he will be able to get a job, '"
Perfect summing up of the situation Hock faces.
He’s been a ‘pro rugby player’ since leaving school and never had to deal with the other stuff people with regular jobs have to learn sharpish. In the rugby world he could some times rest on his laurels as he had the talent to make it up but looking at him his only talent is rugby probably. He’s going to come down to earth with a massive shock
Hopefully this will do him good as not only will he see what he’s lost but he’s now going to have to start thinking about a career out of rugby much earlier than what he would have had to do. Maybe he can use this time to not only train the house down but also gain some qualifications or get a skill because with the money he’s on what ever career he decides to take he may be able to get others in around him to be the boss or run his own place.
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"Although it's wrong to take drugs and I'm a Leyther, I can't help but feel sorry for Hock, he cleary can't do anything else other than play rugby. There is no way he will be able to get a job, the guy can't string a sentance together but only time will tell what the results are and how Wigan react to the results.
There's no doubting his ability, but at the height of his career when we're seeing him become a fine, fine player he's only got himself (and no doubt his circle of friends) to blame for his errors.'"
Pretty strong sweeping statement there. Didn't realise you had to recite Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast Trilogy to get a job.
I also believe it is spelt 'sentence'. What day do you 'sign on' then?
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| Quote ="Dave T"Your first point isn;t that accurate. Reardon was our first choice fullback, who got injured so missed much of last year. He retained the number 1 shirt for this year, and would have been a key part of the squad without injuries and off field issues.
Agree with your 2nd point, and that may be the way to get him to focus and sort himself out for the next couple of years.'"
Yeah mate i thought about the wording of Reardon as a bit part player when i put it but you know what i mean. He sort of had become that because of injuries and Wire were more then happy to free up his cap space.
They wouldn't have done that if Morley had done the same thing and we all know that. We only need to look at Saints with Pryce(and before anyone starts Saints had no reason to sack Pryce imo).
Hock is as thick as 2 short planks and has probably missed the guidance of players like Farrell and Radlinski more then anybody else. He's made big big mistakes and should be punished but also should be given a 2nd chance imo if he makes some promises to the Wigan club.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You didn't hit a nerve mate your just talking utter balls
because you mentioned the player that didn't play and the only 2 players that might have played that didn't were disco n bailey!! Unless you mean the England lads which would be garbage too!!'"
Yep - you don't know what you're talking about.
No change there then.
Keep digging.
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| I think some people should get a reality check.
The guy has allegedly taken drugs. He has not murdered anyone.
If he is guilty he will have to take the punishment. After that as far as I am concerned he could come back into the Wigan team with no questions asked, and no explanation necessary.
The question is can he do it? Will he want to?
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| I am effin angry at Gaz Hock for throwing away a very bright career not to mention pretty gutted that I won’t be able to watch him breaking the line week in week out.
However
The thing is, let’s be honest there are people playing in the SL who have done far worse things than the odd line or two. Whilst I agree a two year ban should be delivered if found guilty, for me people like Ben Cockyane deserve a greater punishment for their own particular offence.
It is indicative of the UK mentality to punish a drug user more severely than someone who has caused physical harm to another human.
Hock should be kept on at the club in some capacity, you cannot throw someone to the curb when he has not harmed anyone but himself. He will then have a chance to repay the people he has let down by fulfilling a community role before playing for us after his ban on a much reduced contract.
I would like to think that he feels pretty crap at the moment, but he isn’t a bad lad.
We have all made mistakes
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Yep - you don't know what you're talking about.
No change there then.
Keep digging.'" well I said roberts was nothing special and I got that right!! I'm also pretty sure why tony smith was happy to see the back of gleeson!!
But your the one with all the facts big shot!!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"well I said roberts was nothing special and I got that right!! I'm also pretty sure why tony smith was happy to see the back of gleeson!!
But your the one with all the facts big shot!!'"
Oof. Someone touched a nerve again?
You have too many to count.
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Quote ="RB"It took 17 days for the club to be informed after the A test. I wonder if it will take that long with the B test.'"
See following link. The way I read it the B sample is just for verification as it's from the same sample split into two namely A & B.
www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/docu ... _Flyer.pdf
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See following link. The way I read it the B sample is just for verification as it's from the same sample split into two namely A & B.
www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/docu ... _Flyer.pdf
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Oof. Someone touched a nerve again?
You have too many to count.'" ah another resident drum beater joins the nerve touching!! How's that supreme back line working out for ya cruch!!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"ah another resident drum beater joins the nerve touching!! How's that supreme back line working out for ya cruch!!'"
Does the fact that you are quoting "resident drum beater" perhaps mean that are spend far to much time on our site as opposed to yours?
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Does the fact that you are quoting "resident drum beater" perhaps mean that are spend far to much time on our site as opposed to yours?'" Nope I spend plenty of time on my own board
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"well I said roberts was nothing special and I got that right!! I'm also pretty sure why tony smith was happy to see the back of gleeson!!
But your the one with all the facts big shot!!'"
Ouchy. Just how many nerves can be touched in about three posts.
Found out what's happening down Headingley way yet?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Ouchy. Just how many nerves can be touched in about three posts.
Found out what's happening down Headingley way yet?'" We are back to back champions, second in the league with the best defence. And if we win it again this year I've heard it's pre season training in medellin!!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Yeah where back to back champions, second in the league with the best defence. And if we win it again this year I've heard it's pre seaon training in medellin!!'"
So that's a no then. But that was obvious to everyone already.
That hole you're digging will be surfacing in Aus soon. You may as well take an NRL game in while you're down there. Make it a Wests one and Gareth Ellis might tell you what's happening.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"So that's a no then. But that was obvious to everyone already.
That hole you're digging will be surfacing in Aus soon. You may as well take an NRL game in while you're down there. Make it a Wests one and Gareth Ellis might tell you what's happening.'" If you know so much why don't you tell me!! Because you don't know nowt!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"If you know so much why don't you tell me!! Because you don't know nowt!'"
To quote you in an earlier post:
Quote Dont be stupid!! Silly boy'"
I'm hardly going to put names on here.
Anyway, it much more fun to see your reaction.
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To quote you in an earlier post:
I'm hardly going to put names on here.
Anyway, it much more fun to see your reaction.'" Just pm the names
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Just pm the names'"
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"No.
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You've got him worried now. He'll be begging next.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
If he is guilty he will have to take the punishment. After that as far as I am concerned he could come back into the Wigan team with no questions asked, and no explanation necessary.'"
I think to take him back as a player the club would be asking a lot of questions and seeking a lot of assurances. They would be stupid not to.
Quote The question is can he do it? Will he want to?'"
No idea but I think what people are forgetting when discussing the possibility of him rejoining the team in two years is - the rest of the team! In two years time we will have hopefully seen the progression of some of the young forwards people rave about. If we have, why should they stand aside for Hock?
He will be after all have been a player who was banned for two years for doing Cocaine whereas these lads will have spent those two years establishing themselves in the 1st team. I don't quite see them having to possibly move aside for him as sending the right message.
Whether sending the right message is an issue or not one thing is for sure and that is the team will have moved on and so he may well find himself in a position where Wigan would rather put any wage he would get (however small he could then command) towards other players.
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To quote you in an earlier post:
.'" the reason why I put silly boy is unless you sold em the gear or you were in the room doing it with the plays you think you have the dirt on it's all he said she said and hear say! Basically rugby league BS!!
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| Quote ="DaveO"I think to take him back as a player the club would be asking a lot of questions and seeking a lot of assurances. They would be stupid not to.
No idea but I think what people are forgetting when discussing the possibility of him rejoining the team in two years is - the rest of the team! In two years time we will have hopefully seen the progression of some of the young forwards people rave about. If we have, why should they stand aside for Hock?
He will be after all have been a player who was banned for two years for doing Cocaine whereas these lads will have spent those two years establishing themselves in the 1st team. I don't quite see them having to possibly move aside for him as sending the right message.
Whether sending the right message is an issue or not one thing is for sure and that is the team will have moved on and so he may well find himself in a position where Wigan would rather put any wage he would get (however small he could then command) towards other players.
Dave'"
I think you're right.
Sadly, my personal view is that Hock is very possibly finished. The way SL seems to move on in leaps and bounds these days could see him left too far behind. Not only will be be two years older, he'll be two years more inexperienced, and, unless he's very disciplined with his fitness, two years behind the rest of the team physically.
I think Wigan should do what they can, legally of course, to keep him onside. But in truth it's difficult to see how they give him any firm guarantees about what may happen in two years' time.
Let's hope this example is not lost on other players who may indulge in nose whiskey. Gareth has basically ruined a very, very promising career.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"the reason why I put silly boy is unless you sold em the gear or you were in the room doing it with the plays you think you have the dirt on it's all he said she said and hear say! Basically rugby league BS!!'"
Oh is it BS again because I won't tell you - bless.
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