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| Quote ="Cruncher"'Sad', 'immature', 'pathetic'.
Your words to describe RL fans who have a problem with the Latics.
Don't keep trying to pretend you meant something else. It may wash in the winebars of Leeds, but it doesn't wash here.
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As you seem to want to keep digging that hole you've got yourself in, let me give you another shovel. You've got yourself into a terrible mess after not being able to back up the quote I originally questioned - desperately trying to save face by bringing up things completely unconnected.
Lets cut to the chase as you seem to have got yourself into a bit of a hole you can't get out.
1. Where have I said I didn't make those comments above? You even posted part of the quotes earlier which where actually to do with those who had a "victim complex" or "chip on their shoulder" about either the Latics or the rugby. It's completely unrelated to my original post but you seem to have brought it up - is it because you can't back up the quote I questioned?
2. You still haven't after all the usual drama queen bluster been able to answer the simple question I asked:
Quote ="Cruncher"I don't hold with this odd pious view some posters have that all Wiganers should automatically support the Latics.'"
Quote ="Me"Who has actually every said that? You obviously think it's more than one.'"
Are you going to answer it or are you now finally going to be brave enough to say it was bollox?
Not answering the question and desperately changing the subject when you can't, may wash in the working mens clubs of Wigan, but it doesn't wash here.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"As you seem to want to keep digging that hole you've got yourself in, let me give you another shovel.
You've got yourself into a terrible mess after not being able to back up the quote I originally questioned - desperately trying to save face by bringing up things completely unconnected.
Lets cut to the chase as you seem to have got yourself into a bit of a hole you can't get out.
1. Where have I said I didn't make those comments above? You even posted part of the quotes earlier which where actually to do with those who had a "victim complex" or "chip on their shoulder" about either the Latics or the rugby. It's completely unrelated to my original post but you seem to have brought it up - is it because you can't back up the quote I questioned?
2. You still haven't after all the usual drama queen bluster been able to answer the simple question I asked:
Are you going to answer it or are you now finally going to be brave enough to say it was bollox?
Not answering the question and desperately changing the subject when you can't, may wash in the working mens clubs of Wigan, but it doesn't wash here.'"
Who's blustering again?
Stick with it, kid. You might at some poiint convince someone that you meant something else.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Who's blustering again?
Stick with it, kid. You might at some poiint convince someone that you meant something else.'"
Thanks for finally confirming that you can't back-up what I asked and neither are you brave enough to admit you wrote bollox. Bit of a double whammy.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Thanks for finally confirming that you can't back-up what I asked and neither are you brave enough to admit you wrote bollox. Bit of a double whammy.
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Don't what you're fussing about. You know as well as I do that you were having a pop at Wigan fans who don't like the Latics. You don't appear to extend the same criticism to RL fans who live in other towns.
It's not difficult to work out where you're at.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Don't what you're fussing about. You know as well as I do that you were having a pop at Wigan fans who don't like the Latics. You don't appear to extend the same criticism to RL fans who live in other towns.
It's not difficult to work out where you're at.'"
I don't know why you keep bringing this up (actually I do because you've still not answered the original question and seem somewhat reluctant to and we all know the reason why), but I'll put up the quote for you again:
"I'm a Wigan RL fan as well as a Latics fan and I don't find the animosity uncomfortable, I find the whole victim complex on both sides incredibly sad and immature."
"Sitting on both sides of the 'divide' I think those that have the chip on their shoulder about one thing or another to do with the other club are pretty pathetic,".
So at about the 15 time of trying are you able to back up your original point of some saying "all Wiganers should automatically support the Latics"?
Why are you so reluctant to back that up? You've had plenty of time to find something or are you actually saying what I said above is essentially the same?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"'"
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I don't know why you keep bringing this up (actually I do because you've still not answered the original question and seem somewhat reluctant to and we all know the reason why), but I'll put up the quote for you again:
"I'm a Wigan RL fan as well as a Latics fan and I don't find the animosity uncomfortable, I find the whole victim complex on both sides incredibly sad and immature."
"Sitting on both sides of the 'divide' I think those that have the chip on their shoulder about one thing or another to do with the other club are pretty pathetic,".
So at about the 15 time of trying are you able to back up your original point of some saying "all Wiganers should automatically support the Latics"?
Why are you so reluctant to back that up? You've had plenty of time to find something or are you actually saying what I said above is essentially the same?'"
You clearly implied that Wigan RL fans who don't like Latics are sad, pathetic and immature.
But if you didn't, as you now say, mean 'all of them', perhaps you just meant [usome[/u of them?
In which case presumably you, being the one who said it, are the judge who decides which ones are sad and pathetic, and which ones aren't.
Stop trying to hide behind semantics.
You're a Latics fan and it riles you that most other RL fans in Wigan don't share that position. Have the guts to admit it.
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| Can one of the green men put these two out of their misery please?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Can one of the green men put these two out of their misery please?
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| just thought i would add my 2penith worth
firstly i support WRL and have done for a long time.
secondly i was not born in wigan so there for DONT support Latics as they are NOT my hometown team. most wiganers i know are man u or Liverpool fans and have been for many years. Just because Latics got in to the premier league doesnt mean they automatically desreve you to becomer a fan.When WRL win the grand final this year will it be compulsary for Latics fans to be Warrior fans also.i think not. Loyalty is something you develope over the years not just because the team is promoted to the top flight.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"You clearly implied that Wigan RL fans who don't like Latics are sad, pathetic and immature.
But if you didn't, as you now say, mean 'all of them', perhaps you just meant [usome[/u of them?
In which case presumably you, being the one who said it, are the judge who decides which ones are sad and pathetic, and which ones aren't.
Stop trying to hide behind semantics.
You're a Latics fan and it riles you that most other RL fans in Wigan don't share that position. Have the guts to admit it.'"
Wow you've really got it bad haven't you? More drama queen stuff - so now I'm riled that Wigan RL fans don't support the Latics?
Your inability to answer the original question I've had to keep posting reminds me of when Paxman had to ask Michael Howard the same question 14 times and he still couldn't or wouldn't answer it.
Found any posters who said "all Wiganers should automatically support the Latics" yet? Why do you keep dodging that question?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Yeah, definitely time for bed. Until that winebar ser tries to claim he's won again. But it might have to wait until tomorrow now.'"
Are you that provincial that anyone who lives in a city goes to a winebar?
Who'd have thought me asking you a question would get you so hot and bothered?
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"Guys......
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Well I remember once asking you about eight questions in a single post (again, on your favourite subject - taking the pee out of RL fans who don't like Latics), and you didn't answer one of them. So in the bollox stakes that makes it 8-1 to me.
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Well at least you finally admit you were talking bollox, you could have saved yourself a lot pain and embarrassment if you did it at the start.
I sure you can reopen the other thread you are now also making things up about in another attempt to save face.
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| THIS NAME CALLING IS TOTALLY CHILDISH
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Well at least you finally admit you were talking bollox, you could have saved yourself a lot pain and embarrassment if you did it at the start.
I sure you can reopen the other thread you are now also making things up about in another attempt to save face.
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Realty bites.
Suddenly he doesn't want to talk about people who won't answer questions any more.
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Realty bites.
Suddenly he doesn't want to talk about people who won't answer questions any more.'"
I'm happy to show you up all day.
Although you're doing a fine job of it all by yourself.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I'm happy to show you up all day.
Although you're doing a fine job of it all by yourself.'"
Woah. the man's on a roll.
It's Friday, and he's had a liquid lunch with the other senior students.
But he still doesn't want to talk about people who won't answer questions any more.
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| Its like watching my sisters twins argue over a book, the difference is they are only 1 on sunday!
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