It will be like a new front row if we do what I said, add to that Ben Davies,O'Carroll and Mossop competing for the prop role I reckon the new coach will drop players untill they shape up.

After a tough pre-season doing what I stated I would give Fielden, Feka and Coley their chance and based on their performances would coach/drop them accordingly which is something Noble failed to do in all the time he was here.

When you look at other teams and how their players have progressed and look at us I don't see much of an improvement exept in Phelps due to Radlinski tutoring him.

I can't wait for next season lets hope McGuire gets them all firing on all cylinders ala Nathan Brown.

Well its been said on here McGuire has had a bit of experience at all areas of coaching like conditioning aswell. Hopefully that on its own with mean that he can get us through a quality pre season and start the season from the first game. That on its own would leave less work to do later on instead of playing catch up

If we HAVE managed to do what a good number of NRL clubs have tried over the last 18 months..then the club should be applauded

When you have a legend like Bennett and top coaches like Bellamy saying your the next big coach..You must have something about him.

really hope we have pulled this off

I've spoke to ex-NRL players about pre season training over there and they say its sickeningly hard fitness wise as opposed to over here which is a bit of a pi55 up and training abroad.

Palea'aesina, I really like him as do the fans as he knows how much it means to play for Wigan and he gives it everything he's got every time but he needs to get fitter and lose about 1 or 2 stone as does Riddell. If Palea'aesina got fit we would have our very own Moimoi as they are he same style of player. Please get fit Feka!

Rivvie pike beckons.

Which I would imagine is pretty difficult given some of your previous posts.

Do you honestly believe Wigan would be so stupid as to announce the sacking of a coach the week before a Grand Final in which they were due to appear?

You've truly got to be the simplest kind of headcase to believe that.

Nobby knew he was going weeks, if not months, ago - but Wigan sat on it to prevent the resulting three-ring circus interfering with, firstly the CC semi-final, and secondly, the play-offs.

Yeah, so they then go and announce it three days before the club's first appearance in a Grand Final for about five years.

Sorry to namecall, but some people deserve it - you utter prat.

So is he lying when he says he was told last Friday?

I wish people would stop calling this a sacking, his contract has run out and we are not offering him a new one.

Noble's a liar and IL can do no wrong. Thought you would have known that by now

And what on earth makes you think Ian Lenagan doesn't?

Well what do you think?

Everyone in Wigan knew he was going several weeks ago.

He might have known but that isn't what he said. He said he was only formally told last week his contract wouldn't be renewed. If true which I believe it to be I think it a highly disrespectful way to go about things. I think people appreciate it when people are honest and upfront about things.

I heard quite a surprising rumour yesterday.

1. Brian Noble was definately going (confirmed)
2. He's joining Celtic
3. He's taking Stuart Fielden and Feka with him, funded via the RFL Development fund.

I don't really buy into the full rumour (Feka + Fielden) but I am curious to know if anyone else has heard similar?

If people criticise the way that Ian Lenagan has dealt with the coaching situation as being very unprofessional then is Brian Noble not guilty of the same crime?

He just announced his future live on Sky Sports and not through an official press conference. The club have then been forced to make an official statement on the website without a press conference.

Pety point but no worse than what some are arguing on here.

Well i made one up a couple of weeks ago saying the same (apart from the feka bit) which was all pure speculation on my part with no basis on any fact apart from celtic not having a coach yet. Does that count?

Thats one new addition for my new rumour brigade

IMO We wouldnt have heard about a news conference before monday..If Noble had not announced to the world only 2 mins after the the whistle that he was off.

But thats just my opinion

your club has treated brian disgustingly considering he pulled you from the brink of relegation. Mr lenaghan has a lot to answer for in my opinion and is not the messiah just a very naughty boy! SHAME ON YOU WIGAN! i'm glad brian kept his integriy to the end you are welcome at the challenge cup winners 2009 home anytime

Mate nobody cared the first time you posted it..what makes you believe the second time will be any different

Does he need to be punished?

stoning?

Firing squad.

crucifixion?

If what you say is blow for blow correct, then I don't disagree. But in actual fact I don't believe it.

Even if IL did decide not to approach him with the truth (though what purpose that would serve, I can't imagine), is Nobby really going to be working at Wigan all season, hearing endless rumours, and never once going to request an audience with the chairman to demand an explanation?

Is Nobby the only person in Wigan who was not interested in finding out exactly what was going on re. his contract?

One thing Nobby is definitely good at is playing the press card. He may well be deeply upset at the way this has gone, so perhaps we can't blame him for trying to cast the club in a bad light, but I'm pretty sure that IL - or any chairman who doesn't want bad publicity - would initially have tried for an amicable separation, which would have required the compliance of both parties. I'd be very, very surprised if Nobby wasn't told about this before anyone else.

How long, for example, has he been talking to Celtic? I was told since about mid-summer. You don't do something like that without going first to your current employer and asking: "Have I got a future here or not?"

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