So just purely on his size you'd keep him? On that basis we'll keep Riddell?

Get rid. He is no use to us and players like Pryce is why we are where we are. Ship him to Salford/Celtic.

I've watched him several times at Academy games, he is not good enough.

If he had an Australian accent his head would of been demanded on a plate a long time ago.

Riddell's not going anywhere because of his contract, so thats a non-starter of an argument.

As for Pryce, you don't think his size is an asset? It's almost unique to find a player of his physique, strength and pace who can play in the outside backs and if he can get match sharpness in the first team then he is a weapon that most teams cannot match up against out wide. His performance on Friday was encouraging, there is room for improvement, but his initial lazy attitude demonstrated on earlier appearances wasn't as apparent and I believe he has the potential to be a very good player for Wigan if given time.

They are both young with potential. Keep them both. Gleeson and Carmont will not last forever and clock up plenty of injuries between them, Pryce and Goulding should eventually take over. Then Thornley can pressure them for the first team spot.

Congratulations on watching reserve / academy games, so do I - doesn't make either of our opinions more valid considering the difference to first team.

If he was Australian you may be right - but thats because expectations are far greater for the limited quota spots and the wages that are often associated. Pryce is a reclamation project at best, a gamble the club seem willing to perservere with and one that I believe will pay dividends in the long term for Wigan.

as well as whenever he took a drive in sucked in 2 or 3 defenders to take him down, as well as knocking a couple off in the process. For me he did more in that game than Goulding, whom i really just do not rate.

Well done on beating Saints on Friday Darryl.

Seriously I wonder what Wigan fans dislike about Pryce to have such an issue with him, I can only assume its because he is a player Noble brought from Bradford who he dares deem to be better than a "wiganer". god forbid.

still only 22 once he toughens up he's gonna be a monster

I too think Karl Pryce will come good, he certainly has the ability. With regards to Goulding, I would have him back at Wigan. He must have been given the number 3 shirt for a reason.

and when you stop trolling you are going to have to finish your homework.

Don't forget it was Noble who gave him that shirt

Goulding and Pryce as Wigans long term centres; sounds good to me.

I've never said that at all - my opinion is if he's better than a Wiganer then he should play, I'm not bothered where he's from. I just don't think he's got what it takes to play for Wigan, and I think the money spent on him could and should be better spent elsewhere. That's just my opinion.

I like being proved wrong on player's so I hope he does pick up but from what I've seen from him so far he doesn't warrant a shirt, reserves or first team.

The way i see it Goulding has shown enough application to be a top player, but lacks the ability.

I have seen more from Pryce to think he may well be a very good player for our team, than i ever have with Goulding.


Goulding will in my opinion never be a player in a team that is consistently challenging for honours, Pryce just might be, and for that reason we go with Pryce and allow Goulding to make a career at another club rather than hold him back to play a bit part when there is no chance he has a future at a club with our ambitions.

Is Pryce as bad as mathers? ..no really
Ship him our way, we'll turn him into a decent player


We've even made Matt King look good this year

no you simply made him look bad last year, he is still far from where he should be in truth.

Pryce showed in the WCC he has what it takes.

Pryce is coming back from about two years out through injury so his level of fitness was always going to be a problem at first. Due to this he is being played in the reserves to give him game time to build up his fitness levels over this season with a view to him getting more first team chances next year. He has been playing well for the reserves and has as I have mentioned before been used at 6 in a few games and did well in that position too. On friday he did well and was a real problem for the Quins as although he didn't always bust through tackles (speed hitting the tacklers is limited by his fitness at the moment, no sense in going hell for leather but having to go off after half an hour, he had to pace himself to play the whole game) he always had 2 or 3 men needed to stop him and this creates gaps that the team can exploit. Next season when he can hit the line at full whack he will be one of our better attacking players.

In regard to Goulding one thing I always noted about him during games was that he hardly ever passes to his winger. This would often end an attack when a pass to the man outside would have got us many more metres and often a try. Whether this is through poor decision making or a selfish attitude is anyone's guess but I think his time at Salford may help him to improve this aspect of his game which for me was a major flaw. My reasoning for this is that he has played on the wing at Salford where he is on the other end of such situations. This should help him to realise how valuable a pass out to the winger from a centre can be as he will recieve the pass and score tries/ advance the attack. When he then does not get a pass he will be annoyed at his chance being wasted. This should make him look to give the pass in these situations when playing at centre rather than hold the ball and lose the opportunity. This should mean him coming back as a better player than when he left on loan.

I personally thought Pryce played ok on Friday, better definately than his previous outings for the 1st team.
He might not have been bursting through every tackle but you watch and he bounced the 1st man off almost every time and a few times has a hand free for an offload.
As for Goulding I think we should get him back for a while when his loan spell is up and see how the experience has paid off. You never know, he might look like a more complete player from it all.
Plus he will have more chances because we were spreading the ball both ways on Friday for once, a new dimension thats developed since Hock has been missing.

I don't really rate Goulding, yes he is ok and decent going forwards but his defence is nowhere near good enough if we're going to be a title-challenging side.

When Gleeson was brought in, the defence on that right-hand side improved dramatically.

When Pryce is taking three men to tackle him and is first off the floor that's 3 players who can't make a tackle 'cos they are not 10 yards back.
One time he bust through three and the fourth guy got him by the ankle. Pryce again was first off the floor and Quins with four taken out were all over the place.
If Pryce can take that many with him and be quick off the floor, Tommy and Sam will cause havoc to any opposition defence and that's what we want.
Pryce is worth his place IMO, his fitness will come. We may need to play Gleeson elsewhere do to the number of injuries now.

Agree with this. Plus if he comes infield to help the forwards, he could be quite a handful... but as has been suggested, we need to see how fit he can get.

Fitness is definitely the problem with Pryce, not his ability. He can certainly finish, he is very creative with his hands, has a good short kicking game and can tackle.

But what is happening about his fitness, this stops him form showing his undoubted skills. Unfortunately he is not alone in this respect. I can't think of another Super League side with players as seemingly unfit as Pryce, Feka, Riddell and Tim Smith. I hear in an interview with O'carroll that he comes in early with Feka for extra training, but we are now entering the run in the the end of the season fitness shouldn't be an issue except for injury reasons.

Come on you conditioners lick them into shape PLEASE.

Pryce & Feka need a lot of work, but you would have thought this would be obvious to the conditioning staff.

What was wrong with Fekas fitness on Friday?

He gave Quinns a torrid time when he came on

He's an impact prop, he isn't going to play 60 - 70 minutes a game.