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| Just reading his interview with Wigan Today, saying how he's loved every minute and thanking everyone for getting his career back on track. It's such a strange situation that he's going back to Warrington. I'm struggling to think of another case like this, where a player quite clearly is having to take a step he doesn't really want to. That game at the HJ earlier in the season, where he got dogs abuse from the Wire crowd cannot be something that sits well with him.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just reading his interview with Wigan Today, saying how he's loved every minute and thanking everyone for getting his career back on track. It's such a strange situation that he's going back to Warrington. I'm struggling to think of another case like this, where a player quite clearly is having to take a step he doesn't really want to. That game at the HJ earlier in the season, where he got dogs abuse from the Wire crowd cannot be something that sits well with him.'"
End of the game Saturday it was a pretty good atmosphere with the players doing the lap etc.
There were a couple of players in particular who I was pleased for
KPP - Proved me wrong, I didn't think he was tough enough, worked hard enough etc. Come back from injury and been fantastic. He's gone out the right way.
Powell - 12 weeks or so ago just before he came back from injury I made a statement that Powell will have a big part to play in our success come end of season and imo he has for various reasons. Not to mention the commitment he's put into this club over the last 10 years or so. "If" he's going he's another one who's doing it the right way, and I wouldn't expect anything less of him, a true professional
King
I wasn't particularly bothered either way when we signed him, a few positives, a few negatives I thought and if I'm honest I was worried about what supply French would get.
But at the first open training session I took my Foster kid down there to meet the players etc and Toby King, along with Willie Isa were the 2 OUTSTANDING individuals we met that night (and Matty Peet).
Their time, the attention they paid to the young lad in terms of answering his questions, asking him questions etc.was fantastic.
Toby King must have spent over 10mins with us, telling us hiw pleased he was yo be here, hiw he wanted to experience the cure etc. And he also had a bit of a laugh with my foster kid who was 6 at the time on a play on words between his own name and my foster kids name (obviously cant say what it is due to confidentiality etc) which my lad.loved and repeated loads of times during the year
And the overriding feeling I had when I left was what a nice, professional young man he was
He got some pelters first game at HKR and I defended him as he was part of a right edge that was struggling with KPP and Cust, but as soon as Willie went back there, been fantastic.
About 6 weeks ago we arranged for a bloke we go on the coach with to watch a training session as it was his 80th birthday and hed watched Wigan for 75 years etc and the club were brilliant
He had photos with all the players etc and when it came time to meet Toby King he was again brilliant
And after the photo he came over, some 8months or so after our ladt conversation, said hello and asked how "Insert jokey name" was my foster lad.
Asking how he was doing etc and revealed that he'd had foster brothers/sisters growing up in his household
Some people will dismiss this, but he firs in with the culture Matty Peet has brought back to the club, and anyone who's seen the signs on the walls up in the kingfisher bar (Wanes bar) will see that along with producing good rugby players the club are intent on producing good people.
I'm made up for Toby King and wish him all the best for the future personally
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| Quote ="Jukesays"End of the game Saturday it was a pretty good atmosphere with the players doing the lap etc.
There were a couple of players in particular who I was pleased for
KPP - Proved me wrong, I didn't think he was tough enough, worked hard enough etc. Come back from injury and been fantastic. He's gone out the right way.
Powell - 12 weeks or so ago just before he came back from injury I made a statement that Powell will have a big part to play in our success come end of season and imo he has for various reasons. Not to mention the commitment he's put into this club over the last 10 years or so. "If" he's going he's another one who's doing it the right way, and I wouldn't expect anything less of him, a true professional
King
I wasn't particularly bothered either way when we signed him, a few positives, a few negatives I thought and if I'm honest I was worried about what supply French would get.
But at the first open training session I took my Foster kid down there to meet the players etc and Toby King, along with Willie Isa were the 2 OUTSTANDING individuals we met that night (and Matty Peet).
Their time, the attention they paid to the young lad in terms of answering his questions, asking him questions etc.was fantastic.
Toby King must have spent over 10mins with us, telling us hiw pleased he was yo be here, hiw he wanted to experience the cure etc. And he also had a bit of a laugh with my foster kid who was 6 at the time on a play on words between his own name and my foster kids name (obviously cant say what it is due to confidentiality etc) which my lad.loved and repeated loads of times during the year
And the overriding feeling I had when I left was what a nice, professional young man he was
He got some pelters first game at HKR and I defended him as he was part of a right edge that was struggling with KPP and Cust, but as soon as Willie went back there, been fantastic.
About 6 weeks ago we arranged for a bloke we go on the coach with to watch a training session as it was his 80th birthday and hed watched Wigan for 75 years etc and the club were brilliant
He had photos with all the players etc and when it came time to meet Toby King he was again brilliant
And after the photo he came over, some 8months or so after our ladt conversation, said hello and asked how "Insert jokey name" was my foster lad.
Asking how he was doing etc and revealed that he'd had foster brothers/sisters growing up in his household
Some people will dismiss this, but he firs in with the culture Matty Peet has brought back to the club, and anyone who's seen the signs on the walls up in the kingfisher bar (Wanes bar) will see that along with producing good rugby players the club are intent on producing good people.
I'm made up for Toby King and wish him all the best for the future personally'"
Really nice to hear that. The clubs really superb in terms of how it treats people at the moment. There are some things on the commercial/media side that needs work but they’re things matter little in comparison to that personal touch you mention above.
As for King himself, like you I wish him all the best. I hope he kills it back at Warrington and rams a few peoples comments down their throats.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"End of the game Saturday it was a pretty good atmosphere with the players doing the lap etc.
There were a couple of players in particular who I was pleased for
KPP - Proved me wrong, I didn't think he was tough enough, worked hard enough etc. Come back from injury and been fantastic. He's gone out the right way.
Powell - 12 weeks or so ago just before he came back from injury I made a statement that Powell will have a big part to play in our success come end of season and imo he has for various reasons. Not to mention the commitment he's put into this club over the last 10 years or so. "If" he's going he's another one who's doing it the right way, and I wouldn't expect anything less of him, a true professional
King
I wasn't particularly bothered either way when we signed him, a few positives, a few negatives I thought and if I'm honest I was worried about what supply French would get.
But at the first open training session I took my Foster kid down there to meet the players etc and Toby King, along with Willie Isa were the 2 OUTSTANDING individuals we met that night (and Matty Peet).
Their time, the attention they paid to the young lad in terms of answering his questions, asking him questions etc.was fantastic.
Toby King must have spent over 10mins with us, telling us hiw pleased he was yo be here, hiw he wanted to experience the cure etc. And he also had a bit of a laugh with my foster kid who was 6 at the time on a play on words between his own name and my foster kids name (obviously cant say what it is due to confidentiality etc) which my lad.loved and repeated loads of times during the year
And the overriding feeling I had when I left was what a nice, professional young man he was
He got some pelters first game at HKR and I defended him as he was part of a right edge that was struggling with KPP and Cust, but as soon as Willie went back there, been fantastic.
About 6 weeks ago we arranged for a bloke we go on the coach with to watch a training session as it was his 80th birthday and hed watched Wigan for 75 years etc and the club were brilliant
He had photos with all the players etc and when it came time to meet Toby King he was again brilliant
And after the photo he came over, some 8months or so after our ladt conversation, said hello and asked how "Insert jokey name" was my foster lad.
Asking how he was doing etc and revealed that he'd had foster brothers/sisters growing up in his household
Some people will dismiss this, but he firs in with the culture Matty Peet has brought back to the club, and anyone who's seen the signs on the walls up in the kingfisher bar (Wanes bar) will see that along with producing good rugby players the club are intent on producing good people.
I'm made up for Toby King and wish him all the best for the future personally'"
That's a great post to read.
I'll happily admit that I was wrong about TK. He had a shaky start, but my god he's improved. To a man, I doubt there are many fans who didn't wish he was staying.
Kerighan is his own player, with an obvious different skill set. That's not necessarily a bad thing as we've got plenty of 'meter eaters', but it's still a risk - King just worked for us.
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| It would be nice to see King back here at some point in the future. He's been great and as mentioned above, he seems like a good lad off the field. Can only wish him all the best and hope that going back to Wire isn't too traumatic for him.
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| Imagine that feeling of walking back to that Wire training ground on his first day a 'Grand Final Winner', he would feel ten feet tall. I really hope it happens for him.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Imagine that feeling of walking back to that Wire training ground on his first day a 'Grand Final Winner', he would feel ten feet tall. I really hope it happens for him.'"
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| Spoke to him at the Gala on Sunday,he has loved every minute at this great club ,his words not mine.
He also said if he wins the ring how good would that be on the first time he walks in to Warringtons stadium.
As already stated a true gent and had time for the fans.
If I was a wire fan that gave him stick I for one would be embarrassed
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Flashing his ring at everyone
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It’s a good job he isn’t going to castleford teaming up with Westerman.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"End of the game Saturday it was a pretty good atmosphere with the players doing the lap etc.
There were a couple of players in particular who I was pleased for
KPP - Proved me wrong, I didn't think he was tough enough, worked hard enough etc. Come back from injury and been fantastic. He's gone out the right way.
Powell - 12 weeks or so ago just before he came back from injury I made a statement that Powell will
King
I wasn't particularly bothered either way when we signed him, a few positives, a few negatives I thought and if I'm honest I was worried about what supply French would get.
But at the first open training session I took my Foster kid down there to meet the players etc and Toby King, along with Willie Isa were the 2 OUTSTANDING individuals we met that night (and Matty Peet).
Their time, the attention they paid to the young lad in terms of answering his questions, asking him questions etc.was fantastic.
Toby King must have spent over 10mins with us, telling us hiw pleased he was yo be here, hiw he wanted to experience the cure etc. And he also had a bit of a laugh with my foster kid who was 6 at the time on a play on words between his own name and my foster kids name (obviously cant say what it is due to confidentiality etc) which my lad.loved and repeated loads of times during the year
And the overriding feeling I had when I left was what a nice, professional young man he was
He got some pelters first game at HKR and I defended him as he was part of a right edge that was struggling with KPP and Cust, but as soon as Willie went back there, been fantastic.
About 6 weeks ago we arranged for a bloke we go on the coach with to watch a training session as it was his 80th birthday and hed watched Wigan for 75 years etc and the club were brilliant
He had photos with all the players etc and when it came time to meet Toby King he was again brilliant
And after the photo he came over, some 8months or so after our ladt conversation, said hello and asked how "Insert jokey name" was my foster lad.
Asking how he was doing etc and revealed that he'd had foster brothers/sisters growing up in his household
Some people will dismiss this, but he firs in with the culture Matty Peet has brought back to the club, and anyone who's seen the signs on the walls up in the kingfisher bar (Wanes bar) will see that along with producing good rugby players the club are intent on producing good people.
I'm made up for Toby King and wish him all the best for the future personally
Always look out for your posts, mate, but you've really outdone yourself this time!
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| Can’t argue with the team we are building for next year and obviously there were wider issues caused by his contract and the fact that he was a loan player but in a perfect world I’d have loved to have retained him.
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| I know we are building for next year but I think we are pretty good this year or the last year,if we win the GF I think we have built a great team this year,if it is to be improved next we will have to win the WCC and the CC.
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| Would be superb if one of the rumoured big announcements on Saturday was that we had come to an arrangement (fee) with Wire to sign Toby on a 2/3 year deal. I don't live in hope as I've no idea whatsoever how it would work with the Keighran signing and I'm not even sure if it could work for us within the salary cap.
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| Anybody think that the big announcement could be stadium related? No inside info or anything but I just think it would be good news If we no longer have to worry when the football side play in relation to our big games and potential changes of venue
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| It is nothing to do with a new signing but a current player.
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| Powell is the only one I can think of, so he gets a "send off" at the GF.
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| Quote ="Zig"It is nothing to do with a new signing but a current player.'"
So good news regards a current player can only mean a contract extension. Unless we've done a late deal with Wire for King which is unlikely.
Assuming a contract extension then it could be Smithies, could be Junior who apparently has been extended but not yet announced, or it could be a further extension to French or Field or both? How good would that be?
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| Sorry guys, it was about Havard returning to the squad for Saturday’s GF. I couldn’t post it has I had made a promise to his dad not to do so before Wigan announced it. Ethan will be in the 17.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just reading his interview with Wigan Today, saying how he's loved every minute and thanking everyone for getting his career back on track. It's such a strange situation that he's going back to Warrington. I'm struggling to think of another case like this, where a player quite clearly is having to take a step he doesn't really want to. That game at the HJ earlier in the season, where he got dogs abuse from the Wire crowd cannot be something that sits well with him.'"
Seems to me the stumbling block is money. Warrington gave King a very long and very valuable (and very dumb) contract that terminates at the end of the 2025 season. Indeed whilst on loan with you, and Huddersfield, Warrington were still part paying his salary.
Either Wigan can pay out the remainder of this contract for the next 2 years or King can accept a new contract on reduced terms with Wigan. The reason he is not staying at Wigan is his desire for £££. There is no massive demand from the Warrington supporters to see him back.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Seems to me the stumbling block is money. Warrington gave King a very long and very valuable (and very dumb) contract that terminates at the end of the 2025 season. Indeed whilst on loan with you, and Huddersfield, Warrington were still part paying his salary.
Either Wigan can pay out the remainder of this contract for the next 2 years or King can accept a new contract on reduced terms with Wigan. The reason he is not staying at Wigan is his desire for £££. There is no massive demand from the Warrington supporters to see him back.'"
Oh I get it comes down to money and I don’t blame him in the slightest for not walking away from that Salary. No player is on silly money in this game, so even if he’s getting more than he should, it’s still all a case of a player needing to be sensible and look ahead past their career.
He goes with everyone’s best wishes and hopefully it works out back at Wire and he isn’t made a scapegoat if things go wrong.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Seems to me the stumbling block is money. Warrington gave King a very long and very valuable (and very dumb) contract that terminates at the end of the 2025 season. Indeed whilst on loan with you, and Huddersfield, Warrington were still part paying his salary.
Either Wigan can pay out the remainder of this contract for the next 2 years or King can accept a new contract on reduced terms with Wigan. The reason he is not staying at Wigan is his desire for £££. There is no massive demand from the Warrington supporters to see him back.'"
Ha !
Seeing as he only counts 50k on your salary cap money isn't the issue for Warrington either?
The only problem with the situation is Warrington
They offered the contract, they employed Darryl Powell, they allowed him to go on loan to Huddersfield, they paid the difference, they allowed him to go to Wigan and paid the difference (whilst indulging Daryll Powell with his Matatuia/Minikin etc Dudson,Maguire, Kasiano signings)
Maybe the club needs to look inward at its behaviour, culture, management set up etc
And the fans need to be asking why they aren't happy to see an International, Grand Final winning centre who gives his all in very game in line with his abilities I.e. Hard working etc. Back at the club, but we're doing cartwheels over signing a crocked inglis or a terrible/average replacements like Matautia or Minikin
Wonder how Briers felt he was treated, Mike Cooper, Josh Charnley, the list goes on and on
What I will say is, he's been a pleasure to have play for us and actually spoke to 2 of Wigans coaches about him 6 weeks ago and they said his attitude (and Wardles) has been outstanding since the day they walked in
Wonder what it is about 6 x time Grand Final Wigan that suddenly gets the best out of players?
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Is he the first Warrington player to win championship since 55?
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| 25 carries and nearly 180m on Saturday, workhorse.
Will have fond memories of Toby. He’s a great interview and gives nice answers rather than robotic cliches.
Spoke to him after the game on Saturday and he was class act (as Jukes has said). To say he’s not looking forward to going back to that circus is an understatement.
Shame he can’t stay but it was never really an option.
He would be able to return after his lucrative Wire contract is up after 2025. But at that point he’ll be 30 and Wigan I’m sure will have moved on.
Hope personally he can have a nice rest of his career.
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