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| What do we reckon?
It's a tough call wheather to rest plenty or try and keep momentum. I think the lads are good enough cope with a week off and turn it on at Wembley so I'd rest players.
My side-
Roberts
Charnley
Tomkins
Goulding
Marsh
Mellor
Deacon
Mossop
McIlorum
Lima
Hansen
Hoffman
Farrell
Subs
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Crosby
Hock
L Tomkins
It's a risk resting players but win or lose this game we will more then likely have to win at Wire to finish first. I think that side would beat Bradford anyway.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"What do we reckon?
It's a tough call wheather to rest plenty or try and keep momentum. I think the lads are good enough cope with a week off and turn it on at Wembley so I'd rest players.
My side-
Roberts
Charnley
Tomkins
Goulding
Marsh
Mellor
Deacon
Mossop
McIlorum
Lima
Hansen
Hoffman
Farrell
Subs
Prescott
Crosby
Hock
L Tomkins
It's a risk resting players but win or lose this game we will more then likely have to win at Wire to finish first. I think that side would beat Bradford anyway.'"
Personally I'd try and keep momentum. Last year we performed poorly after a week off several times, I think it's best to hit the cup final with all guns blazing, not after some players having a game in the sidelines.
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| How about O'Caroll in that squad, on the bench to see how he goes, would do good to rest someone for the BIG game, and to see how O'Caroll goes on in the next stage of his development in his return to 1st team ? I seen him in the reserves, scored a couple of tries, maybe worth resting someone? What do you all think?
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| Quote ="Dave26"Personally I'd try and keep momentum. Last year we performed poorly after a week off several times, I think it's best to hit the cup final with all guns blazing, not after some players having a game in the sidelines.'"
THIS. All guns blazing for the next few weeks then hopefully everyone gets a rest in week 2 of the playoffs. Keeping the momentum going is vital. One or two changes maybe but Madge has never been one for wholesale changes.
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| Quote ="secret carnivour"How about O'Caroll in that squad, on the bench to see how he goes, would do good to rest someone for the BIG game, and to see how O'Caroll goes on in the next stage of his development in his return to 1st team ? I seen him in the reserves, scored a couple of tries, maybe worth resting someone? What do you all think?'"
I mentioned this the other day actually and think it's worth putting him in against Bradford. With his contract being up at the end of the season surely it must be worth giving him a shot in the 1st team. Not seen any of the 20's since hes been back but most of the reports seem to suggest he's getting plenty of minutes under his belt.
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| Quote ="Dave26"Personally I'd try and keep momentum. Last year we performed poorly after a week off several times, I think it's best to hit the cup final with all guns blazing, not after some players having a game in the sidelines.'"
this
plus Rads quite rightly pointed out on Sunday after the game alot of the lads will be putting in performanceas to tray and secure their place in the Wembley team, I wouldn't be surprised if we get a massaive score on Friday
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| FB 19 Roberts
RW 25 Charnley
RC 12 Joel
LC 2 Goulding
LW 24 Marsh
SO 36 Powell
SH 15 Finch
P 15 Lima
H 9 McIllorum
P 20 O'Carroll
SR 33 Hughes
SR 34 Hock
LF 22 Farrell
S 14 Prescott
S 28 Walker
S 29 Crosby
S 30 Logan
Give some bodies a rest and get a good look at our fringe players to see who might be worth more game time next season. Big chance for Eamon O'Carroll to stake his claim for a new contract. I'd prefer a team of players fighting for a first team spot to a team assured of their spot who just want to make sure they don't get injured or suspended for Wembley. Keep that right wing partnership together though the more time they have to gel the better
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| How about resting 3-4 certs for the final, sam, tommy, pat then play strongest 17 so the competition for places in final is there
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| I know Rads already said that everyone will be playing for their spot at wembley vs Bradford, I cant help feel that with so many big games coming up, Wembley, Wire away (although thats only a big game if we beat bradford..), playoffs. It wouldnt hurt to rest a few this week.
I'd go with:
Roberts
Charnley
Joel
Marsh
Richards
Finch
Mellor
Lima
McIlorum
Mossop
Hock
Hoffman
Farrell
Goulding
Prescott
Crosby
Hughes
Sam, Leuluai, O'Loughlin, Hansen, Carmont, Deacon, Coley have all done enough this year to secure their place at wembley. - Not that players like Charnley, Pat, Joel, Finch, Lima, Mossop, Hoffman etc havent but we cant play the under 20s, we still need a win.
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| Prescott has to be the first name on the team. He has to prove himself fit to be in contention for a place in the final.
The ones I would rest would be Sam, Carmont, Tommy, Coley, Hansen, Lockers and maybe Pat.
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| Play our best possible team, in prep for next week.
Contrary to popular opinion, the worst possible time to rest anybody would be the week before a big game. They all need to play.
That said, I'd be disappointed if Hoffman played 80 mins again.
Tomkins
Charnley, Tomkins, Carmont, Richards
Finch, Deacon
Lima, Leuluai, Coley
Hoffman, Hansen
O'Loughlin
McIlorum, Farrell, Mossop, Prescott (we need to know if he's 100%)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Prescott has to be the first name on the team. He has to prove himself fit to be in contention for a place in the final.
The ones I would rest would be Sam, Carmont, Tommy, Coley, Hansen, Lockers and maybe Pat.'"
I honestly don't think we'd win if you rested all those players.
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| The coaching and fitness staff will know which of the players may be a little jaded and in need of a rest.
In my opinion players should not be rested just in case they may get injured - after all they may get injured in the first minute at Wembley.
Players need to play and they are professional enough to know that when they are on the field they risk injury especially if they don`t give 100% in everything they do.
I trust Madge 100 % to get the balance right - he knows the right calls to make.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"I know Rads already said that everyone will be playing for their spot at wembley vs Bradford, I cant help feel that with so many big games coming up, Wembley, Wire away (although thats only a big game if we beat bradford..) .'"
Presuming Wire win in France our result means little on Friday.
Win and we still need to win at Wire. Lose and we still need to win at Wire.
That's why I'd have no problems resting rafts of players on Friday. With us having pretty much a given on the last day we could actually afford to still lose this and finish top if we do the business at Wire.
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| Quote ="Bridger"Play our best possible team, in prep for next week.
Contrary to popular opinion, the worst possible time to rest anybody would be the week before a big game. They all need to play.
That said, I'd be disappointed if Hoffman played 80 mins again.
Tomkins
Charnley, Tomkins, Carmont, Richards
Finch, Deacon
Lima, Leuluai, Coley
Hoffman, Hansen
O'Loughlin
McIlorum, Farrell, Mossop, Prescott (we need to know if he's 100%)'"
This for me! We need to play our strongest possible side and take momentum into next week. Only exception I may have is rest Carmont.
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| agree , cant see madge making wholesale changes anyway
plus i want all 3 trophys , so no easing up please
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| I would hope Madge rests one or two players but I doubt he'll make wholesale changes. I think Mossop should be considered for a rest since he's been playing a lot of game time without a break. Lima was rested for Salford and I think Mossop should be rested against Bradford.
Other than that I can't see who might benefit from a rest other than Carmont.
Sam Tomkins
Charnley
Joel Tomkins
Marsh
Richards
Finch
Deacon
Prescott
Leuluai
Lima
Hansen
Hoffman
O'Loughlin
McIlorum
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| If it were my choice I'd go.
Sam
Charnley
Joel
Marsh
Richards
Deacon
Leuluai
Lima
McIlorum
Coley
Hoffman
Hansen
Lockers
Prescott
Hock
Farrel
Roberts
That would mean Carmont, Finch and Mossop all received a rest. And I'd make sure that as soon as we secured a commanding lead, that Sam and Lockers were replaced for the rest of the match by Roberts and Farrel.
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| I think we should push for a big win. Cos wire may end up losing this weekend at Catalans and that would mean we could lose 130-0 the week after the cup final and still be top. Rest only the players like preccy who need it.
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| if Raynors playing, i would rest Joel.
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| I'd like to see us go
1. Amos Roberts
2. Josh Charnley
3. Joel Tomkins
4. Stefan Marsh
5. Pat Richards
6. Joe Mellor
7. Paul Deacon
8. Lee Mossop
9. Tommy Leuluai
10. Jeff Lima
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Ryan Hoffman
13. Liam Farrell
14. Mike McIllorum
15. Eamon O'Carroll
16. Gareth Hock
17. Paul Prescott
Rests for Carmont, Lockers, Coles and Sam games for marsh amos and ocarroll. Preccy needs to play to check his hamstring.
And that team above should still hammer bradford.
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| The main 2 we should rest are Sam and Carmont because we simply don't have replacements for those 2. I'd rest them not really to keep them fresh but to just make sure they don't get injured. The injury to Cross proves how easy they can occur and whereas we have pretty strong back up in other areas we don't in the centres and no team could replace a guy like Sam.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The main 2 we should rest are Sam and Carmont because we simply don't have replacements for those 2. I'd rest them not really to keep them fresh but to just make sure they don't get injured. The injury to Cross proves how easy they can occur and whereas we have pretty strong back up in other areas we don't in the centres and no team could replace a guy like Sam.'"
Would you not put Richards into that bracket? (If not solely for his kicking and defensive contribution).
I'd hate seeing Darrell Goulding's name on the Wembley teamsheet.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The main 2 we should rest are Sam and Carmont because we simply don't have replacements for those 2. I'd rest them not really to keep them fresh but to just make sure they don't get injured. The injury to Cross proves how easy they can occur and whereas we have pretty strong back up in other areas we don't in the centres and no team could replace a guy like Sam.'"
The above without doubt!
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| Quote ="Guerrier"Would you not put Richards into that bracket? (If not solely for his kicking and defensive contribution).
I'd hate seeing Darrell Goulding's name on the Wembley teamsheet.'"
Richards is close to that bracket as are guys like Tommy, Finch and Lockers but I feel if we lost any of those 4 we could juggle things around and just about cope but if we lost Sam for example the game becomes pretty level in terms of who's favourite imo. Also if we lost Carmont we simply don't have anyone to come in of anywhere near that standard and we'd probably be left with a second row at centre on one side and a winger at centre on the other(Goulding and Marsh are both wingers imo).
As it stands i'd rest all 6 of the players i've named as i've done in my team I named at the start but if Maguire only wants to leave 2 or 3 out like he did against Salford then Sam and Carmont must be the first 2 closely followed by Pat Richards.
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