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| Been announced this morning that we (Bulls) have signed Shaun Ainscough. I think he will be a very good signing, but iam a bit dissapointed that we have only give him a 1 year deal.
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| See how you feel In a years time.
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| Quote ="6Iestyn6"Been announced this morning that we (Bulls) have signed Shaun Ainscough. I think he will be a very good signing, but iam a bit dissapointed that we have only give him a 1 year deal.'"
Good Luck Shaun and all the best.. Its a good chance for him to prove himself at the top level.
Noble IMO ruined the lad by bringing his faults to the highlight of the media and causing huge debates on fans forums and affecting his confidence. IMO Shaun has no problems in attack it was/is just his ability defending the high ball and also his ground defence but IMO given the right guidance he could have improved in these areas but I think his confidence was hugely affected by Noble and therefore making it more of an issue than what it was/is.
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| I am pleased by this news. I think it is fair to say that he lost his way a little under Noble and has never really recovered from it. He needs to work on some areas of his game but he's young enough and has some raw talent.
He'll get the chance at Bradford that he was unlikely to get at Wigan. We're taking a punt on him, but I reckon he might just reward the faith shown in him by Potter.
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| Ainscough was a breath of fresh air when he arrived on the scene, a winger not afraid to take people on down the wing instead of playing it safe and coming inside. But I agree about Noble ruining him firstly by destoying his confidence by dropping him and bringing to light the problems in his defence (to be honest I didn't notice them) with his attack being superb.
It's a shame things haven't worked out
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| There are better players ahead of him for wing spots at Wigan. As simple as that for me.
That Nobel spotted flaws in his game before some supporters shows why he is a coach and they are fans!
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| How people can still blame Noble for Ainscough being p*ss poor is beyond me. He's had his chances this season - and duly not took them.
Good riddance I say.
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"There are better players ahead of him for wing spots at Wigan.'"
People keep saying this but who are they? We have had several young players get a run out recently but [unone[/u has made the impact Ainscough did in a team that wasn't as well coached as it is now.
I am sure Rouges and others can mention several players who have starred in the academy but as I said none of the players given a début this season have had the impact Ainscough did in 2009.
I agree with a couple of previous posts in that his faults such as they are were exaggerated and unfortunately seized on by Nobles defenders to justify Noble's actions. I don't think anyone noticed these faults until it became an excuse to drop him.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"How people can still blame Noble for Ainscough being p*ss poor is beyond me.[u He's had his chances this season[/u - and duly not took them.'"
Rubbish. He got one game in the poorest team we put out all season.
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| agree with that Dave, 1 game is hardly a chance.
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| Quote ="Pieman"agree with that Dave, 1 game is hardly a chance.'"
He had his chance to shine out on loan and in training at Wigan but clearly didn't. You have to trust the judgement of people who work with him everyday.
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"He had his chance to shine out on loan and in training at Wigan but clearly didn't. You have to trust the judgement of people who work with him everyday.'"
How do you think Pryce would have looked playing for Cas and Widnes? They are two poor sides and if he was so bad no one would have have wanted to sign him anyway. He was wanted by Cas, Widnes and now the Bulls.
Pryce got his chance because he was too old for dual reg and IMO cost too much in wages to be a viable player to send out on loan. As such IMO Ainscough has been a victim of circumstance this season as much as he was last under Noble's policy of playing senior players regardless of form. Ainscough has scored 27 tries in 28 games with us, Cas and Widnes and that is why he been able to get another SL club and under Potter I think he will prove a lot of people wrong.
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| Quote ="DaveO"How do you think Pryce would have looked playing for Cas and Widnes? They are two poor sides and if he was so bad no one would have have wanted to sign him anyway. He was wanted by Cas, Widnes and now the Bulls.
Pryce got his chance because he was too old for dual reg and IMO cost too much in wages to be a viable player to send out on loan. As such IMO Ainscough has been a victim of circumstance this season as much as he was last under Noble's policy of playing senior players regardless of form. Ainscough has scored 27 tries in 28 games with us, Cas and Widnes and that is why he been able to get another SL club and under Potter I think he will prove a lot of people wrong.
Dave'"
Shaun is not a bad player, just not to the standard Wigan are thankfully for these days.
Your points, some of which have a degree of a point hanging around them, are mainly based on your point of view. Unless you have previously unexplained inside information, they are nothing more...as are mine!
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| Quote ="DaveO"People keep saying this but who are they? We have had several young players get a run out recently but [unone[/u has made the impact Ainscough did in a team that wasn't as well coached as it is now.
I am sure Rouges and others can mention several players who have starred in the academy but as I said none of the players given a début this season have had the impact Ainscough did in 2009.
I agree with a couple of previous posts in that his faults such as they are were exaggerated and unfortunately seized on by Nobles defenders to justify Noble's actions. I don't think anyone noticed these faults until it became an excuse to drop him.
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Bingo! He was the top try scorer in the league for ages despite missing quite a few games, then he got dropped for getting out-jumped by Matt King. After that it was like the emperors new clothes on here, if you can't see his glaring defensive incapabilities you must be a fool, no wonder his confidence took a knock. It summed it up for me when he got a game this season and 'solid' Phil Bailey let someone past him, Ainscough sprints a good 50 metres to make a cover tackle but the attacker gets the offload away and they score, about five people around me in the south stand then started shouting about how we need to drop him! If Noble had stuck with him in '09 I'm fairly confident he would have the 2 shirt in '11 instead of signing for Bradford. We'll see how this pans out but I can't help but feel we've let go of a great talent.
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| quoted as saying that Potter has done a good job at Saints.Most of our supporters wouldn't agree!
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| Quote ="Saint from Prestwich"quoted as saying that Potter has done a good job at Saints.Most of our supporters wouldn't agree!'"
He's from Wigan so Potter had done a great job at Saints so far
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| To quote Ainscough from this mornings press release.
"It's a fresh start for me."
"Everybody's going to be fighting for their places and starting with a clean slate. It's a big chance for me to impress."
This was exactly the same case at Wigan at the start of this season. He had a fresh slate and was on an equal footing with everyone else. Yet he didn't impress and was unable to show he was worthy of a starting spot.
Now he'll have an easier job of impressing and pushing for a starting spot at the Bull's because of their poor squad. But in Wigan's case when he was coming up against people such as Charnley who at a younger age is able to put in better performances than Shaun, it's no real wonder he's been shown the door.
The best of luck to Shaun, I really do hope he makes a go of it seeing as he now has a family to look after. But the fact that he's only been given a one year deal, suggests's to me Potter doesn't have the greatest of confidence of turning him into a better player.
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| Not a lot of faith shown with just a 1 year deal.
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| Quote ="Saint from Prestwich"quoted as saying that Potter has done a good job at Saints.Most of our supporters wouldn't agree!'"
Chev Walker made a similar quote during the week too. Can't seem to find it now, but he said in a paper Mick is one of the main reasons for him choosing Bradford. He's a great coach, and several players who he's spoken too that have worked with him have all had good things to say. He's the type of coach he likes to work with.
When I saw that, after all the rumours about players not getting on with Potter I thought it was a bit of a surprise.
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| Finch and Richards are going to have a field day next season
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| Good luck to him. I hope he makes it at Bradford
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Not a lot of faith shown with just a 1 year deal.'"
It may well of been Shaun's choice to choose a 1 year deal. He won't be commanding a massive wage right now and perhaps has backed himself to earn an improved contract in 12 months.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Rubbish. He got one game in the poorest team we put out all season.
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I cant belive he didnt play every week , a very dangerous player, sort of player who can turn a game . I think in a few years he will be in the long/Briscoe category of wated talent
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| I would say that it is his attitude that is the problem and not his ability, judging by his ramblings on the internet.
McGuire obviously thought that he didn't deserve a chance, otherwise he would have had some at some point.
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| Good deal for all parties involved. Simple as that.
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