www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/1 ... er-chance/ This isnt good if True, first Fielden and then HANSEN. I think the club should confirm who has agreed to stay up to now. There are still loads of players off contract. Hansen, fielden, carmont, micky mac, preccy, tuson. Hope this is just paper talk

www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/1 ... er-chance/ This isnt good if True, first Fielden and then HANSEN. I think the club should confirm who has agreed to stay up to now. There are still loads of players off contract. Hansen, fielden, carmont, micky mac, preccy, tuson. Hope this is just paper talk

I know he has turned down a new contract at wigan because they only offered him an extra 5 grand - where are salford getting all this cash from?!?!?

Hardly spent the cap over the past few years and I believe now the 50% rule doesnt apply so everyone can spend upto the limit??

Maybe they want to move into their new stadium with a very good squad and have borrowed an extra couple of million on top of that needed for the stadium to improve their squad which may improve their attendances??? Would make sense if true.

I've always been a critic of Hansen's position within the squad considering we have with likes of Joel Tomkins, Liam Farrell, Lee Mossop and Chris Tuson all competing for the same spot, not to mention Phil Bailey. With Hoffman coming over next year and Gareth Hock returning too it's big competition for places and wages and we simply cannot match every players demands. It would be a shame, but would probably sense that I started a topic highlighting an improvement in him last week: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=467051 Also, Salford is a club that's close to him. He was brought up in the area, played for Folly Lane ARLFC, his Dad used to play for Salford and his mate Feka is moving there too. If he is to leave, then good luck to him. Like I say, I'd not be too concerned about him leaving considering the players we already have in his position, I'd be more annoyed at the fact another club with crap youth policy is benefiting of our hard work and investment.

I've always been a critic of Hansen's position within the squad considering we have with likes of Joel Tomkins, Liam Farrell, Lee Mossop and Chris Tuson all competing for the same spot, not to mention Phil Bailey. With Hoffman coming over next year and Gareth Hock returning too it's big competition for places and wages and we simply cannot match every players demands. It would be a shame, but would probably sense that I started a topic highlighting an improvement in him last week: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=467051 Also, Salford is a club that's close to him. He was brought up in the area, played for Folly Lane ARLFC, his Dad used to play for Salford and his mate Feka is moving there too. If he is to leave, then good luck to him. Like I say, I'd not be too concerned about him leaving considering the players we already have in his position, I'd be more annoyed at the fact another club with crap youth policy is benefiting of our hard work and investment.

Do not think there is any need to panic let's just see how things turn out. If we are honest it would not be the end of the world oif he were to leave. I rate him highly and I hope it is just paper talk but if he were to leave he is not a vital part of our team and looking at who we have confirmed in Hoffman along with JT makes for a very very strong backrow. Mossop, Tuson and Farrell's form has also shown they are ready for SL. We would clearly be stronger with Hansen off the bench at the next year as the other lads are still developing but I feel there is a plan in place and as usual this time of year generates all kind if knee jerk reaction to any rumour. Let's wait till the 2011 squad is confirmed prior to judging it, and let's not forget the impending return of Hock.

We are being run much more like an NRL club these days where fans favorites and strong players move around much more due to superior planning and youth policy. As a fan it's something we need to get used to if we wish to keep up the momentum we have generated this year.

Last time we lost so many players at the end of a season we were rubbish for years hope i am wrong but i have a bad feeling about next year

He is in his 7th season, one of our longest serving (!) and at his age it's reasonable that he could do at least another 3 which would give him a testimonial and big bucks. The turbulence at our club has meant that no one has done 10 years recently - presumably Lockers (debut 02) will be the first one coming up?

I'd hate to lose "H".

He's 24 years of age, and has performed consistently on his time at Wigan. He's a player who appears to love the physical side of the game and is another one who has really improved under the new regime. Very much a younger version of Phil Bailey in that he does the little things in the game that go unnoticed very well, and I think he could make a really good p[rop forward in his later years.

Bad mistake IMO to let him go, but I suspect (hope) it's only speculation.

Hansen is better than all those young players mentioned and he's better than Bailey (who is leaving anyway). Hock won't be back for 6 months in 2011 and is supposed to be returning on peanuts. Hoffman's deal is also only for 1 year initially and no guarantee he will take or be given two years. So we would start 2011 with only JT and Hoffman as the senior back row players if Hansen left and come 2012 if Hoffman goes home we have to hope those young players end up as good as Hansen. There is also no guarantee Hock will be as good as people think when he comes back and wasn't the accepted wisdom of the message board he would go to prop (ditto Mossop)?

It would be very short sighted not to retain Hansen IMO.

Dave

I should have checked with the Master.
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Hansens contract doesn't expire until 2011.
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Well that's that rumour put to bed then.

Its the daily star FFS. It's written by people who point at things with their mouths open...

True, but why let reality get in the way of pessimists and prophets of doom?

This is Wigan, after all. We only won our first trophy in 8 years two days ago, and already there are people who, with no facts at their fingertips at all, are having very bad feelings about next year.

But we're basing the move on the presumption that he's been offered bigger money elsewhere. For me, he's a work horse type player. Very good defensively and solid in attack, but isn't on the same platform as Joel Tomkins and Ryan Hoffman. Based on performances in the academy and reserves and early indications within the first team Liam Farrell, Lee Mossop and even Chris Tuson have shown they can develop into a just as good, if not better player than Harrison Hansen. Therefore, in my opinion he isn't worth the extra money and salary cap space he'd be demanding to stay within the club.

Anyway, as the above posts point out. It appears to be a load of BS anyway.

But it would be a good talking point if it was true.

Phew! Would not like to lose him myself.

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would hate to see hansen leave he is a unsung hero here at wigan

The writer of that article has probably heard that a second row at Wigan is moving to Salford, put 2 and 2 together and ended up with H instead of Phil Bailey.

How can you say that? None of them are currently as good as H and potential means nothing unless they fulfill it.

I think they'll fill that potential.

In 2011, I think Joel Tomkins, Ryan Hoffman and O'Loughlin will be our starting back rowers.

In 2012, I think Joel Tomkins, Liam Farrell and O'Loughlin will be our starting back rowers.

Taking into account the current players, young players and overseas signings for the next few years, his future role will be mainly for impact off the bench.

We need strength off the bench.

I appreciate we have the likes of Faz, Mossop and Tuson waiting in the wings but personally while I do not think it would be the end of the world if he left I still feel more confident with Hansen being part of our regular back row rotation for 2011.

One lad that needs to really kick on and justify his 5 year deal is Mossop, I appreciate others were sniffing round but a 5 year deal is a big investment and he needs to really improve and justify a place in the 17 next year.

Agreed jon. Mossop's undoubtedly got the potential and has shown it during games, but he's lacked consistency in doing it. I'd say Lee's in a similar position to which Joel was a few years back, immense potential and very good when on form, but just not on form enough. Now if Madge and Wane can work their magic and have a similar effect on Mossop during this upcoming off season that they had on Joel this year, Lee will be a great boost to our ever blossoming team.

We do, and how it stands with Hansen is fine as he does a good job.

But if a club is offering Hansen a starting, pivotal role for bigger money, I wouldn't even tempt to match it considering the talent we already have within the position and the salary cap restrictions.

(Just to reiterate, this is a hypothetical tread as there's no evidence to suggest Hansen is leaving)

Some very good points raised here. Harrison Hansen at 24 is starting to come into the prime of his career as a forward & his development has accelerated considerably this year. It would a huge mistake and a massive waste of investment (he's been here since he was 1icon_cool.gif to let him go to another club to benefit from a Harrison Hansen who is coming into the best years of his career.

I agree. As I said in my initial post on the topic he is not pivotal to the success of the team, despite being a quality player non the less.

Definitely wouldn't want to see Hansen go, he's been here ages and always seems to get the job done, he just doesn't get as much praise as Joel and Lockers because he's a defensive player. I know we have Hoffman, Mossop and Farrell but I see Mossop being used as a bench prop and Hoffman as a fourth back rower (either him coming off the bench or someone else), that leaves Farrell, who might not make the 17 every single week but will still play more games than he misses.