Yes, he is very good in terms of what we payed for him and what had gone before him in that position.

He offers some nice touches in attack, but for every nice touch, he is prone to some of the worst defensive misses you can make. Another shocking effort today for their winning try, it isn't the first time he has been found wanting.

Im not suggesting we should let him go at the end of the year, but I dont understand why its considered a lock that we are "good" in the centre positions.

He's on one leg he should not have been playing tonight really.

A fully fit George Carmont can be quite devastating at times.

Well, perhaps yeah, although his leg didn't seem to trouble him for the most part today.



At times yeah. He can also be devastating in defence for us.

That is only too true I am afraid, it makes a mockery imo of saying Ainscough has been dropped because of defensive issues because even our most experienced back is making at least one defensive error per game which are directly leading to tries.

Agree. We can't fault Carmont.


Sadly in these days of the CC, then we have to accept mediocrity in the team, that is the nature of the CC.


Carmont punches above his weight to provide much more than (probably) his pay scale suggests.


Imo he is a good player for Wigan.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to make excuses for him but he has made two one on one errors that have cost us tries and in this case the match winner but I don't think it is a problem in his game - a fully fit George Carmont would have brought down Webster for me.

Possibly his worst ever performance for us tonight. Find it hard to call him though. Hes been a great signing

He has been a good signing. No doubt. But, he isn't as good as is sometimes cracked up to be.

But in the time hes been here he has been ten times the player Fielden has been and helped to create a kind of team spirit amongnst the lads, plus he hasnt robbed the club of a massive amount of money.

Yea, he might have been, but you can't really bring wages into it, its a totally pointless point. A players wage is a players wage.

There hs to be times when we s club del with the CC we (or you) cannot blame it on every loss. Its a level playing field at the moment like it or not. Letss accept the CC is here regardless of if we support it (which i do but not in its current form) and accept the wider failings of the club/team.

I have not seen the game yet but a very pro Wigan comentary tem seemed to sugest we were outcoached, they suggested that when the gme was there for the taking we simply had no clue and stuck it up our jumpers.

Just pointing out that George has been a positive influence to the the team and unfortunatly fielden and his attitude hasnt..

Thats the 2nd time in 2 weeks hes been done on the outside. Soft try to concede as there was no overlap. Just outpaced. Not on top form at the moment is George.

You can't have listened to GMR then.

He passed a late fitness test but IMO he wasnt worth the risk, we could bring Ainscough in, Phelps to and Richards to fullback untill Carmonts fully fit, whats the point in playing someone whos not 100% fit when we have other players waiting in the wings? Whats the point in having a squad???

yes i did.

They said we had massive periods of dominance yet tried to take them on down the middle when the space was out wide, but yet we continued to take it down the middle.

so you didnt have radio manchester on then?
jack dearden practically wet himself when dobson scored that try after the hooter. '[idefinitely a try, he carried on, wigan stopped, definitely a try phil[/i'

even in the car after the game, Jack was still having Eddie style pant explosions over the fact we had lost.

the fella hates us.

mind you, it works well for him, Wigan losing means a busy phone in for him.

Why do you listen to that Shiite then..

maybe cos no-one else covers the game

If you had been at the game pal you would know that going down the flanks was simply not an option - the few times the two teams tried it they came unstuck. Doesn't surprise me though that the idiots at GMR are coming out with rubbish like that.

Wigan did all right tonight - their tactics in going down the middle and keeping it simple were sensible. Unfortunately three individual errors cost us the match - Tim Smith's, George Carmont's and the referee's.

They seemed very pro Wigan not sure who the pundit was but he was the one suggesting Wigan player right into then Hull KR hands. My be wrong i have no idea, but given the pressure we had for long spells in the second half converting non of it, it sounds like they have a point.

they had jack deardon and phil kinsella. kinsella is a class act who doesnt stray into blind bias.
jack deardon....

Daddy controls the radio in the car





Yep.

Well it seems to my by the sounds of it given the pressure we applied nd cme up with nothing plying it like we did was not exactly mster stroke either?