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| i know this is said alot, and will probably be brought up again in the near future. but after watching warringtons opening super league games, i sit there crying out to the tele "why the hell did wigan let higham go?".
its probably one of the most over-used questions associated to wigan rugby recently.
Even Eddie and stevo, as much rubbish as they may talk sometimes; even they highlight the sheer magnitude of wigans mistake in selling mickey.
For me he is still world class; and the best hooker in the league, along with James Roby. How wigan need him now. Riddel is leagues below mickeys standard; just doesnt make scence to me.
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| Did you really watch Saturdays game v Catalan?
Higham gave away three penalties and from each of them Catalan scored.
Two knock ons.
But he did have a decent first half.
Warrington are welcome to one trick Mick.
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| Yeah hes world class - he's that world class that he has guided warrington to two fantastic wins at the start of their campaign running the show and proving to wigan we shouldnt have let him go.
Im sick of hearing this, Higham is nothing but average at best - he was the reason Warrington lost at Catalan, he gave away 3 penaltys each of which they scored a try after, knocked on countless times, just like he did for us.
His running from dummy half is the only thing he does decent when he sometimes catches defence out, but as a hooker you need alot more to your game from that and he just aint got it - the distribution, support play, ability to catch a ball and to control the team.
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| Quote ="fekafan17"i know this is said alot, and will probably be brought up again in the near future. but after watching warringtons opening super league games, i sit there crying out to the tele "why the hell did wigan let higham go?".
its probably one of the most over-used questions associated to wigan rugby recently.
Even Eddie and stevo, as much rubbish as they may talk sometimes; even they highlight the sheer magnitude of wigans mistake in selling mickey.
For me he is still world class; and the best hooker in the league, along with James Roby. How wigan need him now. Riddel is leagues below mickeys standard; just doesnt make scence to me.
thoughts ?'"
yeah sorry mickey salary cap and all that
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| Quote ="fekafan17"For me he is still world class; and the best hooker in the league, along with James Roby.'"
Have you forgotten Kieron Cunningham? And Matt Diskin? And Danny Buderus? The list goes on..
And Higham, world class? How can a hooker be world class when his distribution is poor? That's the whole point of a hooker, not one decent run from dummy half every 10 minutes.
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| Quote ="fekafan17"i know this is said alot, and will probably be brought up again in the near future. but after watching warringtons opening super league games, i sit there crying out to the tele "why the hell did wigan let higham go?".
its probably one of the most over-used questions associated to wigan rugby recently.
Even Eddie and stevo, as much rubbish as they may talk sometimes; even they highlight the sheer magnitude of wigans mistake in selling mickey.
For me he is still world class; and the best hooker in the league, along with James Roby. How wigan need him now. Riddel is leagues below mickeys standard; just doesnt make scence to me.
thoughts ?'"
Is the 17 in your name the total number of minutes you saw Mick play for Wigan during his 3 years with the club?
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| Because he was crap the whole time he was here?
Because he didnt have a decent game here?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Is the 17 in your name the total number of minutes you saw Mick play for Wigan during his 3 years with the club?'"
The 17 is IQ.
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| This is ridiculous. Higham is not world class.
Just better than Riddell at present.
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| Dont let Stevo fool you lad
the only reason he as made Higham is 09 favourite player is to have a well hidden dig at Wigan.
Next it will be Calderwood he'll big up to be the one that breaks aussie hearts
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| But Stevo says we should never have let him go, so it must be right then
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| Quote ="Saint #1"Have you forgotten Kieron Cunningham? And Matt Diskin? And Danny Buderus? The list goes on..
And Higham, world class? How can a hooker be world class when his distrobution is poor? That's the whole point of a hooker, not one decent run from dummy half every 10 minutes.'"
Brad Drew/Terry Newton/Sean Berrigan/Ben Fisher/Ryan Hudson!
Anymore????
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"This is ridiculous. Higham is not world class.
Just better than Riddell at present.'"
Give him time, He'll be better than Higham as well as the other 10 or so better than him already!
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Higham compared to Riddell, although Riddell has played one more game. There isnt much in it, but the stats lean in favour of Higham IMO. Scott Moore would be ahead of both of them.
Comparing the stats for all the hookers I can be bothered looking at - Diskin at the moment is the best, followed by Roby.
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Higham compared to Riddell, although Riddell has played one more game. There isnt much in it, but the stats lean in favour of Higham IMO. Scott Moore would be ahead of both of them.
Comparing the stats for all the hookers I can be bothered looking at - Diskin at the moment is the best, followed by Roby.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Brad Drew/Terry Newton/Sean Berrigan/Ben Fisher/Ryan Hudson!
Anymore????'"
Me, and I'm bloody sixty.
Wire are on Sky on Friday.
Just listen to Mick and Montmorency tell everyone how good one trick Mick is.
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| When you've put your knee cap back in place have a think about what you've just wrote
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=374&hs2=2009&hp2=2075&stat=tries&season=2009
Higham compared to Riddell, although Riddell has played one more game. There isnt much in it, but the stats lean in favour of Higham IMO. Scott Moore would be ahead of both of them.
Comparing the stats for all the hookers I can be bothered looking at - Diskin at the moment is the best, followed by Roby.'"
Bear in mind (Due to Ankle Injury) I think Riddells played 120/130 minutes in 3 games, I think Highams Played 80 both games! (Or not far off)!
See my earlier post, theres nearly a Dozen Better Hookers in the English Game at the moment (Not including Rogues!) and listening to Stevo/Hemmings on SKY plus the other Pair of Numpties of GMR Dearden and especially his leigh mate Hunt is just sickening!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Give him time, He'll be better than Higham as well as the other 10 or so better than him already!'"
He can have all the time he likes - in the reserves behind Tommy and McIllorum.
I never went along with all the hype about this signing but was optimistic that he was what we needed given all the games I have seen on TV from Aus. The biggest disappointment is his conditioning. I know he might be carrying a knock but look at him - is disgraceful too strong a word?
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"He can have all the time he likes - in the reserves behind Tommy and McIllorum.
I never went along with all the hype about this signing but was optimistic that he was what we needed given all the games I have seen on TV from Aus. The biggest disappointment is his conditioning. I know he might be carrying a knock but look at him - is disgraceful too strong a word?'"
He's going to be the kind of player that needs to be fit/training all the time before we see the best of him.
He shouldn't have played at Hull (Probably Wakey as well) but given time He'll go ok.
The main point is we had 3 years of Average Higham and we had to try somehting else, whether Riddell is the Answer only time will tell but 3 games isnt enough!
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O.K I did exaggerate a little.
I'm nearer to sixty-one.
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| Quote ="fekafan17"i know this is said alot, and will probably be brought up again in the near future. but after watching warringtons opening super league games, i sit there crying out to the tele "why the hell did wigan let higham go?".
its probably one of the most over-used questions associated to wigan rugby recently.
Even Eddie and stevo, as much rubbish as they may talk sometimes; even they highlight the sheer magnitude of wigans mistake in selling mickey.
For me he is still world class; and the best hooker in the league, along with James Roby. How wigan need him now. Riddel is leagues below mickeys standard; just doesnt make scence to me.
thoughts ?'"
LOL. He is a good impact hooker and thats it. World class .. lol
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Bear in mind (Due to Ankle Injury) I think Riddells played 120/130 minutes in 3 games, I think Highams Played 80 both games! (Or not far off)!
See my earlier post, theres nearly a Dozen Better Hookers in the English Game at the moment (Not including Rogues!) and listening to Stevo/Hemmings on SKY plus the other Pair of Numpties of GMR Dearden and especially his leigh mate Hunt is just sickening!'"
You've got it bang-on there. You've nailed it.
Higham went unmentioned by those clowns when he played for Wigan. Stevo set his stall out the other night by calling Riddell 'a big lump', or something similar. I've already said that Riddell has been disappointing so far and needs to get fit quickly, but, given that Riddell is carrying an injury at present and had a fairly distinguished career in Australia before coming here, that comment from Stevo was nothing more than common abuse.
They make me puke, those two barstewards on Sky. They've prattled on about us bringing in shedloads of Aussies, never given us any credit - that I've heard - for all the youngsters we've now re-signed on better contracts (if the rumours are to be believed, at the expense of a marquee signing for this year). For some reason they've really got it in for us, and the next time they show their smug, overfed, overboozed faces at the JJB, we Wigan fans should give them the welcome they deserve.
I always liked Mick Higham, but he ought to read between the lines here. Being adored because your someone else's enemy - or because that's the way you're perceived - is hardly anything to write home about.
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| Must say i was never a fan of Higham. Hes ok if brought off the bench for short spells to run at tired defences like he did at Saints but as a starting hooker he is poor. All that means nothing though if the man whos replaced him is even worse.
I have no faith Riddell will come good as hes so badly unfit and out of shape.He has stated time and time again he has no intentions of changing his habits. Sean Long summed him up when he said he looks like hes just walked out of a pub. He really does need to stop mouthing off about how he loves burgers and get some work done in the gym. A player can be quite big (Cunningham/Newton)whilst being fit at the same time,Riddell is just big and unfit. It looks to me like playing with all that weight has taken its toll on his body,no wonder he came over here early in his career. The guy jogs around like a 50 year old!
As for why we let Higham go well if you believe rumours then Noble wanted somebody else (Buderus or Diskin maybe?),Riddell was second choice. Seeing as there wasnt loads of hookers waiting to be snapped up being second choice doesnt mean much.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"O.K I did exaggerate a little.
I'm nearer to sixty-one.'"
I was referring too the O.P but that was funny (note I said [iO.P[/i not [iOAP[/i )
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