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| Read an article today around season ticket prices in Super League. I noticed that Wigan's cheapest adult season ticket is the most expensive in SL at £295 with Castleford the second most expensive listed.
A South Stand season ticket saves £30 on the price for 13 match tickets (so a little more than the price of one match ticket). If we compare that to Hull for example, season ticket buyers there save up to the cost of 6 match tickets. Also have a look at the season ticket webpage/brochure and compare it to Wigan's webpage. They have a much higher standard of marketing and over 80 discounts at local retailers.
A few other points on match tickets / flexi memberships and marketing.
Match tickets for the East Stand have been increased over the last year or two to £30 - the same price as the West Stand. I always felt that was a mistake, particularly as optics are so important and more often than not the TV cameras point towards a very sply populated stand. How about scaling the prices for the stand so that prices for the central blocks are more expensive but the blocks near to the South/North stands are cheaper?
With a South Stand flexi membership for 4 games you would save £1.50 per match ticket which doesn't feel like a big incentive. Maybe tweak the flexi memberships so you save £5 per ticket as opposed to £1.50.
Some more innovation/creativity with Wigan TV - potentially with some fan involvement/discussions. Increased benefits for ST holders who bring new/lapsed fans to a game. A fan survey to existing/lapsed/potential fans to gather views on what would attract fans to games. An email newsletter to the fan database. Invite fans to sign up for the club's social media channels in the newsletter (particularly YouTube which has a very low subscriber count of 2,300). Hand out flyers at the St Helens Good Friday game with some form of ticket bundle offer for the next few games.
Not sure if anyone knows how well season tickets are selling at Wigan - if sales are up then great. There's lots of good things going on off the field with community involvement, Robin Park events and improved merchandise. But I think pricing and marketing is still an area where the club could improve. Recorded attendances were up 7% on 2019 (pre-pandemic) although there's always been a suspicion that there's been more than a few freebies handed out. No complaints about that here and there but it isn't sustainable as a long term strategy. I hope the club consider some tweaks to the pricing (particularly with cost of living and post-pandemic impacts). Its not about personally wanting to save a few quid - it just doesn't like a good business strategy to me but perhaps I'm in the minority. Would be interested to hear what others think.
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| Interesting reading.
Also, adds weight to the argument of saying 'no' to a child when they ask for season tickets for xmas/bday (its the same day in our case).
Simply too expensive for the quality of the stadium experience. The fan village is great but i would expect a higher discount for an ST over purchasing regular match day tickets.
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| leighs cheapest membership is 300 quid - absolute robbery and disgraceful when daft money is being thrown around for the entertainment opener v salford.
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| Quote ="knockonknockon"Quote ="knockonknockon"leighs cheapest membership is 300 quid - absolute robbery and disgraceful when daft money is being thrown around for the entertainment opener v salford.'" '"
Not good - I saw the £25 a month figure but wasn't sure if it included all of the months in a calendar year.
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| Not had one for a few seasons due to always missing some games with other commitments but I believe the auto renewals and other renewals are decent value. The issue you’ve got though is that if a first time season ticket holder or somebody who hasn’t had one for a while, wants to buy one, the prices don’t look great, so I don’t think you’ll get floods of those people buying them.
Maybe it’s impossible to do but I wouldn’t mind seeing something where we offer every adult season ticket one year for £150 to drive numbers up drastically and then offer renewal prices for the following season at around the current renewal prices. Try and get those core figures of ST holders back to a really good number and fight then to keep it at that level. It will be interesting to see the Hull figures. We’re in a better position than them in terms of on field success, so it’s not like for like, but are they seeing sales taking a big jump? And then can they keep them if they rise costs next year?
I’m no expert and that just might lose the club money for not much benefit. What I don’t like to see as an approach to falling crowds is a club just charging people who do go more money (and I get ST renewals are less than newbies but plenty go match to match or have ST’s some seasons but not others).
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| some dodgy prices in there.wigans price is the full price , but the saints one is renewal price. full price is £280. leeds at £233 and saints at £226(but really £280) are for terrace standing.
leeds cheapest seat is £298 ,saints £315
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| Quote ="roo67"Quote ="roo67"some dodgy prices in there.wigans price is the full price , but the saints one is renewal price. full price is £280. leeds at £233 and saints at £226(but really £280) are for terrace standing.
leeds cheapest seat is £298 ,saints £315'" '"
Thanks - Iv changed the Saints one.
It's a comparison of the cheapest ticket irrespective of seating or standing. I can understand the thought that a seating ticket could cost more but at the all seater stadiums you don't have a choice. Im sure there are a lot of Wigan fans who would happily take up the option of a cheaper price for a standing ticket if it was available.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Quote ="MadDogg"Thanks - Iv changed the Saints one.
It's a comparison of the cheapest ticket irrespective of seating or standing. I can understand the thought that a seating ticket could cost more but at the all seater stadiums you don't have a choice. Im sure there are a lot of Wigan fans who would happily take up the option of a cheaper price for a standing ticket if it was available.'" '"
i agree. im too old and grumpy to stand anymore but wish there was standing.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Quote ="NickyKiss"Not had one for a few seasons due to always missing some games with other commitments but I believe the auto renewals and other renewals are decent value. The issue you’ve got though is that if a first time season ticket holder or somebody who hasn’t had one for a while, wants to buy one, the prices don’t look great, so I don’t think you’ll get floods of those people buying them.
Maybe it’s impossible to do but I wouldn’t mind seeing something where we offer every adult season ticket one year for £150 to drive numbers up drastically and then offer renewal prices for the following season at around the current renewal prices. Try and get those core figures of ST holders back to a really good number and fight then to keep it at that level. It will be interesting to see the Hull figures. We’re in a better position than them in terms of on field success, so it’s not like for like, but are they seeing sales taking a big jump? And then can they keep them if they rise costs next year?
I’m no expert and that just might lose the club money for not much benefit. What I don’t like to see as an approach to falling crowds is a club just charging people who do go more money (and I get ST renewals are less than newbies but plenty go match to match or have ST’s some seasons but not others).'" '"
That would certainly appeal to us. My wife and me where ST holders for a while but stopped buying them when the little un arrived. To be fair that is now 13 years ago but our daughter has really got into it now and we have started going to the odd game again. She asked for ST's for xmas but as now 'first time buyers', for x3 ST's its just far too expensive
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Quote ="[Gareth"That would certainly appeal to us. My wife and me where ST holders for a while but stopped buying them when the little un arrived. To be fair that is now 13 years ago but our daughter has really got into it now and we have started going to the odd game again. She asked for ST's for xmas but as now 'first time buyers', for x3 ST's its just far too expensive'" '"
It’s something that is totally off the top of my head and is possibly unworkable but I know in terms of my circumstances (and clearly yours) I’d get one on a deal like that without a doubt and if I could then renew at what this seasons renewal is (£212 when I’ve just checked) for the South Stand, or for an increased premium than what longer term ST holders are being asked to pay, then even missing games would be fine and I’d keep it going forward. I’ve looked at the fixtures this season and I can get to about 10 or 11 home games at the minute but there’s just not much of a saving (and maybe none if one more game falls for me), so I’ll continue going game by game. If there was a way in to a season ticket at a cheaper price but with a commitment to then renew going forward for the next year or two, I’d commit to that for sure. How they could work that is for people with more sense then me but I do think they need to try and grow that ST holder base.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Quote ="NickyKiss"It’s something that is totally off the top of my head and is possibly unworkable but I know in terms of my circumstances (and clearly yours) I’d get one on a deal like that without a doubt and if I could then renew at what this seasons renewal is (£212 when I’ve just checked) for the South Stand, or for an increased premium than what longer term ST holders are being asked to pay, then even missing games would be fine and I’d keep it going forward. I’ve looked at the fixtures this season and I can get to about 10 or 11 home games at the minute but there’s just not much of a saving (and maybe none if one more game falls for me), so I’ll continue going game by game. If there was a way in to a season ticket at a cheaper price but with a commitment to then renew going forward for the next year or two, I’d commit to that for sure. How they could work that is for people with more sense then me but I do think they need to try and grow that ST holder base.'" '"
Maybe something like a 3 year 'starter pack' for new ST's. x3 yearly payments that start off less than a single year ticket leading down to the renewal price. No idea how that would work though
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Quote ="[Gareth"That would certainly appeal to us. My wife and me where ST holders for a while but stopped buying them when the little un arrived. To be fair that is now 13 years ago but our daughter has really got into it now and we have started going to the odd game again. She asked for ST's for xmas but as now 'first time buyers', for x3 ST's its just far too expensive'" '"
There must be a decent number of supporters in your situation (coming back for season tickets after a number of years without one - I did similar when I had kids early 00's), it really is something the club should try and look at. Not only are you coming back you're bringing a brand new supporter with you.
I do believe there should be a number of packages the club should offer, such as:
A 'welcome back' package - previously a season ticket holder who's been absent for more than one year.
A 'Family Welcome back' package - previously a season ticket holder bringing along new supporters (partner, kids) with further a discounted rate.
What is value worth to the club of a single supporter back for the first time since, say 2015, now coming back to the game with a missus and two kids in tow, willing to buy season tickets and merchandise for the next ten years?
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| Its a strange one the ST/ no ST argument. I have got one for the new season for the first time in a few years as my eldest lad (12) is really into it now and my youngest lad (9) wants to come with us too. He has been to a couple so far and is not massively into it yet but now wants to come with me and my eldest.
Last season I barely missed a home game however it is much easier now to have a ST without having to buy tickets the week of the game and collect pre-match or a few days before if I fancy a ride out. It does seem that for the 2024 season Saints will finally enter the 21st century and go digital. Financially it works out well as for the price that I was paying for me and my eldest for the best seats last season, I now pay the same price per match for my youngest lad to come too so effectively he is attending for free. Even if he doesn't attend every home game, every game he does go too is a bonus.
There's always the argument with Season Tickets in a summer sport of missing games through holidays and other social events so I fully understand why people don't bother. Also some clubs put promotions on mid-season of half Season Tickets or offering tickets for say 3 or 4 games combined at a reduced price which works out cheaper than those with ST.
I've not even checked the fixtures for my 2 week summer holiday when we are away so I don't know how many we will miss yet. However my lads now love the idea of having their "own" seat for the season as last season we couldn't always get seats on the half way line of the North Stand which is our favourite spot.
In answer to the cost of the tickets, do Wigan not do Direct Debit to spread the cost monthly? That would at least make it more affordable. Saints offer this however I have paid in full to avoid any interest fees (can't remember what the interest fees were although I do recall they weren't exorbitant)
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| Quote ="Stu M"Quote ="Stu M"Its a strange one the ST/ no ST argument. I have got one for the new season for the first time in a few years as my eldest lad (12) is really into it now and my youngest lad (9) wants to come with us too. He has been to a couple so far and is not massively into it yet but now wants to come with me and my eldest.
Last season I barely missed a home game however it is much easier now to have a ST without having to buy tickets the week of the game and collect pre-match or a few days before if I fancy a ride out. It does seem that for the 2024 season Saints will finally enter the 21st century and go digital. Financially it works out well as for the price that I was paying for me and my eldest for the best seats last season, I now pay the same price per match for my youngest lad to come too so effectively he is attending for free. Even if he doesn't attend every home game, every game he does go too is a bonus.
There's always the argument with Season Tickets in a summer sport of missing games through holidays and other social events so I fully understand why people don't bother. Also some clubs put promotions on mid-season of half Season Tickets or offering tickets for say 3 or 4 games combined at a reduced price which works out cheaper than those with ST.
I've not even checked the fixtures for my 2 week summer holiday when we are away so I don't know how many we will miss yet. However my lads now love the idea of having their "own" seat for the season as last season we couldn't always get seats on the half way line of the North Stand which is our favourite spot.
In answer to the cost of the tickets, do Wigan not do Direct Debit to spread the cost monthly? That would at least make it more affordable. Saints offer this however I have paid in full to avoid any interest fees (can't remember what the interest fees were although I do recall they weren't exorbitant)'" '"
Yes wigan do offer a pay monthly option. I am paying arpund £26 a month for 9 months which started in december for a sideline view renewal.
The interest only worked out at an extra £15 for the full price so was abit of nothing really.
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| Quote ="BoredWiganer"Quote ="BoredWiganer"Yes wigan do offer a pay monthly option. I am paying arpund £26 a month for 9 months which started in december for a sideline view renewal.
The interest only worked out at an extra £15 for the full price so was abit of nothing really.'" '"
That's a lot cheaper than paying for each match @£30 especially when they are lumped together at the end of the season.
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| Wigan offer a flex ticket for those that dont want to commit to a full ST due to holidays etc.
the kids ticket is pretty cheap too.
I personally think they have all the bases covered and if you compare it to football, even vs a second tier team its a bargain!
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Those prices are reasonable imo. particularly the renewal ones.
Adults Behind the posts works out at just over £16 per game £18 in the East or West Stands.
The junior 8 - 17 year olds work out at less than £3 per game.
The savings on renewal v match day is between £80 and £100 per season i.e £6.15 to £7.70 per game.
I agree they could do something with the lapsed renewals for one season maybe a £3 to £4 per game reduction and then let the fans who had lapsed rejoin the renewal scheme after that one season.
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Those prices are reasonable imo. particularly the renewal ones.
Adults Behind the posts works out at just over £16 per game £18 in the East or West Stands.
The junior 8 - 17 year olds work out at less than £3 per game.
The savings on renewal v match day is between £80 and £100 per season i.e £6.15 to £7.70 per game.
I agree they could do something with the lapsed renewals for one season maybe a £3 to £4 per game reduction and then let the fans who had lapsed rejoin the renewal scheme after that one season.
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| i am one of those fans in the "lapsed over recent years" category.
i was getting bored with the product on show (not just Wigan), and found that i wasnt bothered if i missed a home game. that then became missed several home games, to the point in the last 2 seasons i watched Wigan i only attended 3-4 games each season, thus not worth renewing at any cost.
There were several factors in my decline in watching including bored at some games (usually v Wakey, London, Hudds) where i would just sit and think why i am here, disillusioned with Wigan for various factors with the inability to manage simple things like season ticket renewals, new shirts, sponsors etc etc, general mallaise about RL and seemingly wanting to level down not up which still sort of applies (Saints are top dogs at the minute, so the RL way is to bring them back to the pack and not other way round), family, work, rearrangement of fixtures from Friday night, other interests taking over
so as you can see, that didnt happen overnight, but over a period of years. i attended home and the majority of away games so have gone from full on fan to nothing
how do the club attract me back as a season ticket holder (note that i attended with my dad (East Stand) and also had a South stand ticket for my daughter (+ 1 or 2 friends) (now at Uni)), so they effectively lost 3+ ST holders at around the same time. My dad misses most of the early season fixtures as he has a place in Spain, and chooses to spend Feb - April over there, so the front loading of fixtures for pitch repairs etc doesnt help
Would i buy a full price ticket now? No i probably wouldnt as i still have other commitments, and likely to miss at least 3-4 games, so doesnt make financial sense
would i buy a ticket somewhere inbetween early bird renewal full price, yes i probably would if i know i am going to get early bird option for the following season, and can accept i wont be going to all the games anyway
i dont go for pre /post match entertainment, so my only interest is what is served up on the pitch. Seeing a couple of games last year (post the Lam era) got me a little bit interested again (i did take my daughter to 3 games whilst she was home when Lam was in charge, but the less said about that the better ), but equally some of the games played during the world cup (not just the mens game) got me back interested in the game i love to watch, and remembering why i love watching it
Hopefully the club already realises it has lost quite a few season ticket holders over the last 3-4 seasons, so still have our records on file / database. i'd be happy for them to fire me an offer through and become a ST holder again, but admit i wouldnt pay full price at the minute as its not worth it cos i know what i'll be missing
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| I know what you mean in relation to a general malaise. Some home games are a hard watch and thats even with us as dominant as we have been. There's nothing worse than seeing a sp away end or in some cases even closed and a handful of away fans put in the corner of the North Stand.
Its why I am happy that tickets for the away stand could perhaps be given free to schools. We did something similar at the Toulouse game at home where we were presented with the LLS. Home Bargain employees were given free tickets and the East Stand looked much better 3/4 full.
There's now only 2 games a season where that away end is full- Wigan and Warrington (and not always full with Warrington) so there can be a really poor atmosphere for the majority of home games.
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| I always get a season ticket out of loyalty to the club, but then Thursday night games in February in the soulless DW with no away support when it’s on Sky do test the loyalty.
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| Quote ="Stu M"I know what you mean in relation to a general malaise. Some home games are a hard watch and thats even with us as dominant as we have been.'"
sounds like 2023 will be music to your ears....cant see the 'dominance' continuing
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| Quote ="nikos"Quote ="nikos"sounds like 2023 will be music to your ears....cant see the 'dominance' continuing'" '"
Whilst I think the competition looks like it may be getting more competitive it would take a brave man to bet big against Saints to win the GF again.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Quote ="MattyB"Whilst I think the competition looks like it may be getting more competitive it would take a brave man to bet big against Saints to win the GF again.'" '"
Here's the thing - no matter what they say, that Saints side isn't as good as it used to be. Same goes for Leeds, same goes for us, plus add in Bradford and it's reasonable to think what's the point? Is it to see Hudds, Cats or another team who offers nothing get given a place at the top table? All those home grown players. All those away fans adding to the general wealth of all clubs ...
I used to watch Newton Vs KFC, Scully Vs Faz, Long Vs Lam etc - all for a cheaper price than what I do now. We've not stagnated as a sport - we've gone back.
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| Interesting that quite a few on here fit in the lapsed fan category - I imagine there would be a high number of those in Wigan after Covid, financial pressures and the less than entertaining years under Adrian Lam.
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