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| Broken and dislocated ankle.
I dont fancy seeing Sam Powell starting for us at number 9 for the next 3 months.
Powell was decent at times tonight but his defensive ability is nothing in comparison to McIlorums.
I suggest we recall Hampshire from Castleford.
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| How will recalling Hampshire solve Powell's defensive ability at 9?
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| Bloody hell he's tough.
You knew he was badly injured, but there was no screaming or writhing around in agony.
Wish him well.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"How will recalling Hampshire solve Powell's defensive ability at 9?'"
When did I say it will?
You are putting words in peoples mouths once again. You are a nuisnce and I suggest moderators have a word with you.
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| Quote ="Pacific"When did I say it will?
You are putting words in peoples mouths once again. You are a nuisnce and I suggest moderators have a word with you.'"
Behave.
Why have you bothered to include the point about Hampshire in this thread then?
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| Recalling Rocky gives us options. It opens the opportunity of Williams to share 9 with Powell, or Smith drop in to 9.
We are desperate for a spark in attack. The coaches stifling tactics are no help, and his "let's get um running through t'wall for t'town" preseason mentality rather than coaching rugby clearly leaving us badly underprepared.............again.
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| I've avoided slagging Wane off, however the end of last season and the start of this really has frustrated me. Lots of effort but no craft at all, it's like watching a Noble team we are that obvious.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"I've avoided slagging Wane off, however the end of last season and the start of this really has frustrated me. Lots of effort but no craft at all, it's like watching a Noble team we are that obvious.'"
It's history repeating itself. We have some talented players. They aren't showing it to their full potential. Same as under Noble. I think this has been true rather longer than the end of last season though.
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| I think fans need to think a little bit more seriously about some of the timescales which are provided by the medical staff.
Whilst the club doctor will know that the average amount of time it takes a player to return to active duty after a break and dislocation is three months. [iIn no way does this mean he will be at 100% effectiveness.[/i
One of the major hurdles any player faces after suffering such a bad injury is rebuilding confidence.
The specialist telling him the [i"joint is as good as new"[/i etc. is one thing. But it's quite another for him to KNOW it in his mind.
Factor in the alarming increase in post-operative infections (largely through antibiotic resistant bacteria), relapses etc. etc. and you can pretty much guarantee that the player won't return to the form which was holding down the jersey for twice as long.
I'm not saying McIlorum won't play again this year. But I'd be astonished if he returned to full form in three months.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"
I'm not saying McIlorum won't play again this year. But I'd be astonished if he returned to full form in three months.'"
I don't think he will either as I don't think Wigan will rush him back regardless of the medical situation which would normally see you or me toddling off back to work if the medics said we were good to go but the last thing McIlorum lacks is self belief and confidence.
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| I think we should go for Bob Beswick on loan, he's a great pair of hands and he's one of ours, think he could do a job short term.
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| Not sure Micky Mac has been in the sort of form we know he's capable of,so maybe just maybe this injury while awful will do him good in the long run,though i suspect given how nasty that looked when i watched the game after getting home i'd be amazed if he gets back to full match fitness this season.
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| Quote ="hengirl"Not sure Micky Mac has been in the sort of form we know he's capable of,so maybe just maybe this injury while awful will do him good in the long run,though i suspect given how nasty that looked when i watched the game after getting home i'd be amazed if he gets back to full match fitness this season.'"
You watched it again?
That was brave.
Unfortunately, I agree. I doubt we'll see him again in 2016.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I don't think he will either as I don't think Wigan will rush him back regardless of the medical situation which would normally see you or me toddling off back to work if the medics said we were good to go but the last thing McIlorum lacks is self belief and confidence.'"
Sometimes players need rescuing from themselves.
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| Dr Chris Brooks and the rest of the medical/physio team will have the final say as to when McIlorum starts to play again.
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| Our owner at Leigh, states they have had no approach for Beswick, who is currently out injured himself, and may need an operation before he can play again.
Hope McIlorum recovers quicker than estimated and is back in action before too long.
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| Quote from Wane's press conference this morning:
"Micky's operation went well, the surgeon is really happy. It will be a long one, I can't see him playing again this year."
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| I just hope we're looking for options and not trying to just make do as we seem to do pretty often. There's no rush and if it take a month or longer then that's fair enough but we certainly need to replace a player of McIlorums importance with at least an option to add some competition.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I just hope we're looking for options and not trying to just make do as we seem to do pretty often. There's no rush and if it take a month or longer then that's fair enough but we certainly need to replace a player of McIlorums importance with at least an option to add some competition.'"
Leeds managed to win a treble without a recognised hooker for the business end of the season so it can be done. I've wracked my brain and can't come up with any realistic alternatives for Wigan unless they spend big. None of our competitors are going to let us have someone, so the likes of Dwyer is not going to happen.
It would have to be a second or third choice import like Beau Falloon. Rory Kostjaysn at the Cowboys might be worth a punt, though whether he would fancy it I doubt very much. We are not going to get a Michael Ennis or a Matt Ballin that's for sure.
I'd have been happy with Micky Higham but as he's skipper at Leigh I doubt he'd fancy it. Not too many options I don't think. Any ideas?
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| I hate it when he plays against us, but its bad news that he's likely to miss the rest of the season. Hope he makes a full recovery.
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| Don't want to sound predictable, but what about Tommy Leuluai.
He can cover Hooker whilst McIlorum is injured, and then provide competition in the halves and give us a great interchange option at hooker.
NZ Warriors have Isaac Luke and Havili was playing well as a back up last year. And they have Johnson and Robson in the halves, he might find it difficult to get a game this year. Added to the fact that he said he is interested into going into coaching, something that we've allowed players to do in the past.
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| Im pretty sure that is what SW would have explored straight away. If it is an option he will have already asked the question. He is a world class and top drawer ball player that would certainly speed the play up.
Other than that i can't see who else there is. Robbie Farah is still arguing about his contract with Wests but he is on a fortune. Maybe we can arrange some sort of supplementary loan fee with them and get him on loan for the season. He plays games and takes SL by storm and get's himself a decent contract in the NRL next season. Everyone's a winner.
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| You could do a lot worse than looking at Liam Hood.
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| Quote ="builditandtheycome"You could do a lot worse than looking at Liam Hood.'"
I thought he signed for Swinton about a month ago?
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| Quote ="builditandtheycome"You could do a lot worse than looking at Liam Hood.'"
No thank you, another scooter hooker with little or no creativity.
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