That was truly awful !

I'll second that, woeful display again. I see Shaun wane yet again had another dig at the fans in his post match interview blaming the team were flat due to a flat atmosphere.

bowen or the teams performance?

Clearly starting to pick up the wrong attitude about coasting past teams, Kind of like last season before the plays offs.

Agree. Shocking in both defence and attack we play like that next week game will be over after 20 mins

Hard to pluck any positives from the abject rubbish served up tonight

It was grim at times but we did rest a few.

It could be worse, we could be Wire!

That really was painful.
Wane, though, needs to button it with blaming us for the atmosphere. Play som't worth singing about, then you can have a go. He's pushing my patience with that garbage.

The team. Bowen was one of the few who doesn't deserve a rocket off the coach.

I have just got back and if he is trotting that line out again he is out of order. We were 10 points down in ten minutes which seems par for the course these days. And as usual it was through looking disorganised and uncommitted to tackling.

OK the first try was in part due to a mis directed pass bouncing around and in effect creating an overlap that would not have occurred had the ball gone to hand but second try was just rubbish defence.

When the team looks like a bunch of strangers for the best part of 20 minutes what does Wane expect?

Wigan TV 2 min highlights are up. Tries look a bit better than they did at the game. If you have it you will enjoy Bowen's at the end.

Please stop blaming the crowd we only react to what you serve up mr Wayne, sort it and we will react differently!

Wane is a darling of the supporters due to being a local, passionate bloke who wears his heart on his sleeve. Everyone has enjoyed watching his rise from helping with the juniors through to coaching them, to assistant first team coach and then on to being the top man.

He needs to be careful he doesn't lose any of that goodwill with gripes about the crowd. I said a couple of weeks back the crowd are there to be entertained and lifted by the players not the other way round. In games like last night people expect to be got out of their seats by fast, free flowing, exciting pressure free rugby and they didn't get that.

Poor from Waney I'm afraid.

2 points in April.... Box ticked.

The crowds wont be any better in New Zealand

Wane blames the fans again ROFL ! He wants to try coaching his team to tackle and not go 10 points behind inside the first 10 minutes then folk might have something to shout ( positively ) about .

For 99% of the game we were awful , no support when we made the break, p poor defence in the first half, we could have easily been 24 0 down if they'd have finished a bit better .

Sorry Shaun but you need to get your own ship in order before you start apportioning blame to who's who pay to watch not get paid to coach .

The game was dire. Wigan never got out of 2nd gear, our ptb's were so s-l-o-o-o-w. The game just lacked any intensity at all.

good friday there will be a brilliant atmosphere and if we perform like we did last we'll get smashed to pieces by Stains. he can't exactly go blaming the atmosphere then.

Even thou we played very badly, London actually outplayed us in the first half, they didn't make a mistake, it was all wigan dropping the ball, throwing it away…

next friday is going to be a very apprehensive day for us.

Very true. But our unforced errors - the only consistent thing about us this season - made life easier for London than it should have been, and gifted them yards of territory.

A chap near me came out with all the usual arguments - games like that don't matter, we'll get out of bed when we play Saints, etc. But if all that's true, it suggests a complacent mindset that is not always easy to throw off.

The laughable thing about this whole thread is that Wane is actually right the atmosphere at Wigan is and has been pitiful for years I'm only surprised he's mentioning it now. Fact is we had a 10,000 crowd last night which means that despite a double winning season our season ticket sales have clearly dropped which will contribute to not only the attendance but the atmosphere also. There's virtually no singing anymore, no drums, the flags have virtually disappeared above the south stand. At the end of the day you have a go at Wane rather than trying to prove him wrong. Now unless your completely gullable we are so obviously not going to play like that next week it will be a completely different performance win or lose. Besides the Wigan crowd is always far better away from home but at the DW we are beyond woeful for atmosphere it's like what has been previously stated as soon as we concede there's a collective deflation from the crowd rather than thinking we are doing something wrong so let's get behind the team and get them back into the game no we just slump in our chairs and cogmplain about the performance then ultimately complain at Wane when he tells you the atmosphere is crap.

What utter drivel, we pay to be entertained that's why we go to the game. If season tickets are down then that's the clubs fault, obviously something isn't right is it. We have wane constantly chopping and changing the team and when questioned usually states along the lines of "it's my team, I'll do what I want" maybe the stay away fans are taking the same stance! The atmosphere has gone down dramatically since the banning of the brigantes crew for an incident that happened elsewhere, because "we are Wigan" as the club like to tell everyone we can't condone that behaviour and both ban and break the group up, they then have the audacity to blame the fans for lack of atmosphere!! What other club would have done that, the answer is none of them, but I forget, "we are Wigan " aren't we.

The main problem when it comes to the Wigan fans at present, is they don't feel they've anything to look forward to.

The constant rumours linking Wigan players to RU and the NRL are becoming a real downer.

I can't speak for everyone, but it's difficult to build enthusiasm for the future if all you're thinking is the latest crop of stars (and that may include the coach as well) could be gone as soon as next year.

I'm sorry but who's sat at a game thinking "I can't enjoy this because a player might leave next season"? The main aspects of the poor atmosphere are that a lot of regular season games are pretty meaningless, we've been god awful in the majority of this season's and we haven't had a "big" game with a decent away following (the Hudds game should have been this but we played so poorly we looked beaten before the game really got going). A lot of the remaining home fixtures are much more attractive, if the team turn up and play well the fans will respond accordingly.

This.
Last night should have been an exhibition for 80 minutes, and another schooling of RL that we could have got excited about with an aim of nilling the opponent and as close to a perfect completion rate as possible.

What we got was a team going through the motions, hopefully with an eye on next week, so they got a flat crowd.

Wane obviously understands what it takes to win trophies by timing the performances, and rotating. If he wants to do that against lesser opposition, who don't bring a decent following he has got to understand it's not going to be a good atmosphere.

Anyway. Bowens try was good. But I miss Sam and the excitement he delivered every time he played.

Talking of Bowen, he can shift for a has been with dodgy knees..!!!!. Lets hope he goes through the season injury free, and the same for all our lads..

Why would the fans get behind or cheer the half ar$ed effort that we are currently seeing?

I've thought this for a while but i'm sick to death of three issues that, imo, have risen to the forefront under Wane;

1- This might not be to everyone's likening but i'm sick of watching weakened sides full of kids. If i wanted to watch the academy then i'd go and see them. I'm paying to see the 1st team play and that's who i expect to see turn out. By all means drop the occasional young talent in but i don't want to see a raft of them in the side at one time.

2 - Our effort and commitment in defence. What happened to the nasty defence that we saw week in, week out under Madge? I used to love watching opposition teams getting smashed into the turf tackle after tackle, set after set and game after game. We had a real nasty streak in us which i don't think is there anymore.

3- Wane quotes in the media whether that's about how tough training was, how hard he is to please, how poor certain players have been, how he'd like to coach in the NRL or how quiet the fans are. I wish he'd just button it and keep it in house. If he's not happy with how the players are performing then flog them, drop them or get rid of them but the rest of the world doesn't need to know about it.