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| Another no show and a convenient pulled back muscle before the game, what is going on??
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| Quote ="FIOS"Another no show and a convenient pulled back muscle before the game, what is going on??'"
CC final its obvious. We will go to it on the back of 2 defeats and with no confidcence.
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| Quote ="FIOS"Another no show and a convenient pulled back muscle before the game, what is going on??'"
Taking the in my opinion
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| For a team that was 5 clear at the top
to a team that will finish 4th that's taking
the mick
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| Quote ="wigwam"For a team that was 5 clear at the top
to a team that will finish 4th that's taking
the mick'"
That may be but the prime mickey taker is Tomkins
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| Quote ="FIOS"Another no show and a convenient pulled back muscle before the game, what is going on??'"
All will be forgiven if you win the CC .
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"All will be forgiven if you win the CC .'"
NO - Grand Final is bigger and we have no confidence going into the play offs.
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| The situation is getting a bit messy and we're not doing ourselves any favours. I've done it to death in the stands tonight so I can't be bothered to keep going over it other then to say its obvious what's going to happen and we'll be a very ordinary side next year.
I really feel for Hampshire who will get butchered next year everytime we lose for not being Sam Tomkins. He's a young kid with lots of talent but he's a young halfback not a fullback and its unfair to ask him to step in to such big shoes.
At least we'll have money in the bank...brilliant!
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| Does Sam even want to play for us anymore ?
Looks like he wants to play at Wembley, then 'do one' in my opinion.
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| Ridiculous comments. It's quite obvious the coaching staff are wrapping him in cotton wool for the big games. Jesus wept.
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| This is since he's been hanging around with that Wiggins bloke, to big for the little games.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Ridiculous comments. It's quite obvious the coaching staff are wrapping him in cotton wool for the big games. Jesus wept.'"
A ridiculous comment !
And what happens if Sam has a 'stinker' at Wembley ?
Some of us where there when we got turned over by Sheffield.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Ridiculous comments. It's quite obvious the coaching staff are wrapping him in cotton wool for the big games. Jesus wept.'"
Whilst this is true it's a bit naughty of the club to suggest he's playing all week (to drum up ticket sales) then withdraw him hours from the game.
24hr food poisoning one week then a last minute back spasm the week after.
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| Wrapping him in cotton wool... It's not like he has a bad injury record, plus he needs game time before wembley something stinks about the whole situation and the lies the club are spinning with regards to why he isn't playing are nothing short of insulting to us as fans IMO.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Ridiculous comments. It's quite obvious the coaching staff are wrapping him in cotton wool for the big games. Jesus wept.'"
This is bang on. I can't believe people think Sam is picking when to play? It's gotta be down to SW surely?
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| I have a theory on Tomkins. As far as we believe he is off to NZ at the end of the season and we don't have a replacement. This means one of the current squad has to play FB next year. You can put forward a case as to who you prefer, it seems Hampshire is the chosen one. If he is to play as first choice next year he needs game time this year. It wouldn't surprise me if Sam only plays the CC final and any play off games, ie the only ones that really matter to give Hampshire as much game time as possible.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I have a theory on Tomkins. As far as we believe he is off to NZ at the end of the season and we don't have a replacement. This means one of the current squad has to play FB next year. You can put forward a case as to who you prefer, it seems Hampshire is the chosen one. If he is to play as first choice next year he needs game time this year. It wouldn't surprise me if Sam only plays the CC final and any play off games, ie the only ones that really matter to give Hampshire as much game time as possible.'"
Nail on head, nail right on the head.
Tomkins isn't being wrapped in cotton wool, he's being rested to give next years 'cheap' replacement a few games. They had Tomkins tied to a 5 year deal which in truth was a 3 year deal but they're not even putting up a fight to keep him to that. They're happy to cash in whilst they can without even having a proper replacement tied up.
It's simply not fair on Hampshire IMO who's a young halfback being asked to try and replace one of our all time greats in the team but at fullback.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Nail on head, nail right on the head.
Tomkins isn't being wrapped in cotton wool, he's being rested to give next years 'cheap' replacement a few games. They had Tomkins tied to a 5 year deal which in truth was a 3 year deal but they're not even putting up a fight to keep him to that. They're happy to cash in whilst they can without even having a proper replacement tied up.
It's simply not fair on Hampshire IMO who's a young halfback being asked to try and replace one of our all time greats in the team but at fullback.'"
Maybe you have a point.
But also due to the fact that Sam produces the goods DESPITE the half backs, not on account of them.
Hampshire cannot do that.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Maybe you have a point.
But also due to the fact that Sam produces the goods DESPITE the half backs, not on account of them.
Hampshire cannot do that.'"
And how can we expect him to considering he's a halfback.
He looks a creative 6 or 7 to me not a running fullback in the mould of Tomkins.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"And how can we expect him to considering he's a halfback.
He looks a creative 6 or 7 to me not a running fullback in the mould of Tomkins.'"
I'm not blaming the kid.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"I'm not blaming the kid.'"
Nobody could IMO. He's done as good a job as he could be expected to IMO and looks a real talent.
He's being dealt a raw hand though IMO.
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| The reason Tomkins isnt playing is because we now have a very small chance of getting Anthony Minichello to replace Sam next year.
There is no other option at the minute than Hampshire or Tierney. Waney keeps playing Hampshire because he obviously thinks he has the biggest potential to replace Sam at FB. The thing is Wanes doing this at the wrong time in the season.
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| Quote ="NSmart96"The reason Tomkins isnt playing is because we now have a very small chance of getting Anthony Minichello to replace Sam next year.
There is no other option at the minute than Hampshire or Tierney. Waney keeps playing Hampshire because he obviously thinks he has the biggest potential to replace Sam at FB. The thing is Wanes doing this at the wrong time in the season.'"
Is this an opinion or a fact? Just playing Devils advocate cuz I don't know?
Hampshire has done far better since coming in than any of us could have realistically expected.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Whilst this is true it's a bit naughty of the club to suggest he's playing all week (to drum up ticket sales) then withdraw him hours from the game.
24hr food poisoning one week then a last minute back spasm the week after.
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Agree. I'm disappointed they do it.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Is this an opinion or a fact? Just playing Devils advocate cuz I don't know?
Hampshire has done far better since coming in than any of us could have realistically expected.'"
Its my opinion on what i think Mr Wane is doing. But its fact that we do have a small chance of signing Anthony Minichello to replace Tomkins.
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