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Quote Meanwhile, Wane is likely to welcome back injured players Sam Tomkins, Chris Tuson, Paul Prescott and Harrison Hansen for Sunday’s trip to Wakefield – their last Super League match before they face Leeds in a crucial, mouth-watering Challenge Cup semi-final.
But he is sweating on the availability of two other senior players.
Centre Darrell Goulding twisted his ankle in the loss to Bradford, forcing him to withdraw from the action in the second-half, and Wane was last night waiting for a likely recovery time-frame.
And hooker Mike McIlorum will discover today whether he faces a ban for his punch on Olivier Elima which saw him sent off in the 55th minute.'"
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| No mention of Lima?
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| On the plane to Souths as we speak...
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| To review
Sam - coming back via Wakey
Prescott - coming back for wakey
Hansen - back for wakey
Tuson - back for wakey
Goulding - poss for wakey
Richards - Maybe 4 weeks from whats been mentioned
Lima - Some say 4 weeks, no idea if this is true
Fielden - maybe for August
Leuluai - maybe back for playoffs
Dudson - out for season
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| What's the story with Lima? We need an announcement (no joke intended).
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| PAAAAT is LESS than 4 weeks away.
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| I think Lima will play v Leeds in the semi final.
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| I hope you're right. He's been magnificent this season.
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| have i missed the bit where dudson was out for the season? thought he had a bad one and we susected season but then wane said only 6 weeks?
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| Quote ="pk"have i missed the bit where dudson was out for the season? thought he had a bad one and we susected season but then wane said only 6 weeks?'"
I think originally it was around 12 weeks, then Wane said in a recent interview it was worse than first thought. I don't think he actually said outright that he's done for the season but if it's going to be longer than 12 weeks then that pretty much takes us to the end of the season.
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| even at best with the original 12 week estimate, he would only be coming back in time for the play-offs.
therefore, without opportunity to gain match fitness he was effectively ruled out for the season except for an extreme injury scenario.
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"PAAAAT is LESS than 4 weeks away.'"
Officially three, unofficially semi-final?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think Lima will play v Leeds in the semi final.'"
That's what I am led to believe.
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| With Sam, Tuson, Prescott, H and McIlorum all cleared to play I wouldn't risk Lima or Goulding. Give them the week off to freshen up for the semi-final where baring Pat/Leuluai we'll be at nearly full strength.
Team for Wakey something like:
Sam Tomkins
Josh Charnley
Iain Thornley
George Carmont
Anthony Gelling/Jack Murphy
Sean O'Loughlin
Brett Finch
Paul Prescott
Mike McIlorum
Lee Mossop
Harrison Hansen
Gareth Hock
Liam Farrell
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Eric Lauaki
Ben Flower < had a good game against Bradford.
Jack Hughes
Chris Tuson
Iain Thornley was in the 19 last week IIRC (or was certainly warming up before the match with the rest of the team) and I'd like to take a look at him at centre giving Goulding a rest. I'm really not impressed with Gelling, he just keeps on bombing chances & his confidence will be destroyed if he blows a chance for us in the semi-final or god forbid should we make the final itself. Jack Murphy had an impressive debut & doesn't deserve to be dropped but Sam must come back in for me so I'd be tempted to put Murphy on the wing in place of Gelling.
Halfback is a debate in itself. Moving Lockers away from 13 and having Finch at 7 is disruptive & I'd have personally called back Mellor from Widnes with Lockers back to 13, Finch to 6 and Faz on the bench in place of Hughes/Tuson. I think Wane will stick with Lockers/Finchy though.
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| Lockers at 6 and Finch at 7 isn't working nor will it. He needs Finch at 6, we need a scrum half rapid
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| With Powell making his come back for the u20's is there a chance he might get thrown in against Wakefield to see how he goes with a view to possible playing him in the semi. Cant be any worse than Lockers/Finch combo
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| Its all a worry at the moment, it seems like our wheels have fallen off. I hope SW has an ace up his sleeve or Leeds could ruin our wembley plans, which would be an injustice
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| well at least we should learn from this....make sure you have adequate cover in the pivots in future..........need to make sure that 6 & 7 have back up players that are good enough to play in super league
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Its all a worry at the moment, it seems like our wheels have fallen off. I hope SW has an ace up his sleeve or Leeds could ruin our wembley plans, which would be an injustice'"
Don't panic. We'll be alreet.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Its all a worry at the moment, it seems like our wheels have fallen off. I hope SW has an ace up his sleeve or Leeds could ruin our wembley plans, which would be an injustice'"
I wouldn't go as far as to say the wheels have come off, but the oganisation is all over the place. The sides a bit disrupted but we'll be 'reet.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Lockers at 6 and Finch at 7 isn't working nor will it. He needs Finch at 6, we need a scrum half rapid'"
Spot on .
All Finch and lockers did in the last 2 game was get in each others way . Playing SOL ( a world class LF ) out of position weakens the team IMO .
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| IMHO I think that the big problem is that Sean keeps on forgetting he is not loose forward. The other players should be shouting it at him whenever he is out of position or taking the ball up like a prop.
That way it will keep him focussed and fresh to play his stand off game.
This does mean though, that the other forwards have a real hole to plug and need to step up the defence effort or we will be found wanting.
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| Move Sam to 6 or 7 and leave Murphy at FB
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| Quote ="Conroy"Move Sam to 6 or 7 and leave Murphy at FB'"
this might be the hidden agenda for CC semi......Leeds go in thinking Sam at fullback and prepare to keep the ball away from him in broken play, not worry about Lockers out wide as he is supposedly stuck in the middle. Then have to try and alter on the hoof once Sam pops up in the halves.
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| dont think Wane is that clever to be honest. It seems that Wane without doubt has improved the Wigan team on many levels.
Why is it us as fans and not the professionals can see problems before they happen.
many said we will lose at Widnes when we heard the team selection......we did
we all said Lockers is no 6, we all said we will get past Widnes but with the injuries against bradford would struggle and we did.
we all know the answer is NOT to move the entire team around but make small changes. Mellor should have been bought back or Sam moved to the halfs. we can all see it. Wane's stubborness could cost us the CC and that would be criminal after all the good work he has done.
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