I think massive congratulations are in order for the Metro road planners because after another load of 'improvement' work at the Saddle junction they've managed to make it worse again, if that was humanly possible. I'm talking about the approach on the A49 Wigan Rd from Ashton through Goose Green etc and in particular the now merging junction just outside the ATS place. The road from Pemberton on the left used to be traffic light controlled now both roads merge into a two lane road through the lights at the pub. The result, anyone on the main A49 wanting turn left at the fire station to get to Robin Park, the DW or Martland Park has to cross two lanes on the left, then cross a cycle lane. A recipe for accidents and the natural flow takes trafic away from the DW, its a nightmare for locals now for away fans it'll be worse. Its worth driving through just for the comedy value! Wigan must have the worst traffic planning system in the UK, its just awful.

why are you suprised? they've been working on Saddle for a hundred years. Yes, it's a traffic hot-spot, but when you put a cinema, retail park, huge asda, b&q in the same place as 3 major sports venues, it's hardly a suprise.

Leave saddle as it was (before they messed with it about 10 years ago), and focus on the other routes in and around town where traffic is busy because of 5 sets of traffic lights or crossings in the space of 800yrds. Silly silly council town planning...

It's a disgrace. They have in effect created an extra bottle-neck (as if the Saddle Junction needed an extra one as it is).

They haven't fully finished yet though. In August the bus garage is moving and a new exit out of town will go through that, thus removing the need to exit out of Wigan by the railway bridge. Thus in return the railway bridge will become two lanes into Wigan rather than one. Might not fix your problem though but still.

Is that still going ahead, Bilko? I thought it had been scrapped with the funding cutbacks?

I think thats still going ahead yes. A lot of the recent work I think as been to set up the electrics (traffic lights etc) for it.

The bit that has been cut is the relief road idea that went from saddle along side of the canal, through Miry Lane Estate and come out near Deanery School.

your correct the Robin Park & Martland Park areas are busy and do attract people into the town, all the more reason to have a sensible road network leading to it. As it is the Saddle junction has been made worse and possibly more dangerous as a result of the recent improvements. The safest way to get onto these areas now from the A49 is to go all the way round SCS and come back on yourself, maybe that was the plan.

and who was the divvy who thought about putting traffic lights on roundabouts??

Ritchie Mathers?

Ah, right.

I knew the Deanery bit had been cancelled (I live nearby), but didn't know the rest was still going ahead. Better than nothing, I guess.

I suppose the roadworks won't affect you, living in London?

Geniunely was eating a packet of McVities Mini Cheddars when I stumble upon this picture. I'm not on Birdall Lane though!

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The alterations seem to have worked from my experience. There used to be long queues to get through the junction at ATS, with queues on match days going all the way back to Goose Green Labour Club and beyond. Those queues seem to have now vanished with the removal of one set of lights and merging the roads and altering the sequence of the lights. Crossing lanes is not ideal but its less frustrating than queing up for 15 mins to get through the lights.

Why dont they relocate the businesses on the island and build the road straight to keep the traffic going?

I came down the road from Pemberton the other day where the roads merge and it was a bit unnerving and a definite accident blackspot.

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Anyone else noticed how traffic flows freely if the traffic lights are broke

I have a mate who works in a highways (not in wigan)... they get paid thousands to sit in a room and mess around with the layout of a juntion. They should just keep it as simple as possible.

Giant Scalextric cross-over for adults, it could only happen in Wiggin.

Wigan is awful for driving around. I was once in a traffic jam from Caroline Street (not that that is unusual) all the way to Abraham Guest school. The cause of the problem, a lollypop lady.

The bus garage is closing at the end of next week & Wigan MBC take over the site week commencing Mon 4th July.

I travel to work through the Saddle from Ashton & must admit that the traffic congestion on approach to the Saddle has improved since the road remodelling but it will be interesting to see what it's like on a match day when the majority of traffic needs to turn left towards the DW

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Useless, try crossing 2 lanes of flowing traffic in a van which has obscured visibility due to it being a van. It really is a case of left indicator on turn and hope for the best & I WORK FOR THE USELESS WMBC.

I've noticed that myself... However, I'm not convinced that it's because of the new layout. I think it's partly down to the fact that most people are avoiding it and going down Poolstock lane instead, as that route has gone noticeably busier.

I've been wondering if anyone else has noticed this? I keep wondering if it's going to change but when you're coming along Warrington Road and heading to the cinema, it doesn't seem to make sense to have to try and barge into the left lane now or just stop and wait for someone to let you in. If there's no traffic from Pem it's fine but otherwise it's a nightmare.

I was very sceptical about the work being done at the Saddle but I've found that the traffic now flows much, much better towards Wigan whereas normally you'd be crawling from Goose Green onwards. The lane switching to go to Robin Park is indeed a pain though.