Just switched SSN on to find Brian Carney and Stevo on.



And apparently the ref is from Australia



Surely the ref for this game shouldnt be from the home nation.

Me & Twosevenzero have said this for the last 15 years.

When they come over here they should get Bob Connolly reffing with John C on the Video ref.
Hey John, Just check that for me will you, Aussies think they've scored, FIND a reason why they haven't!
Put the Aussies up in a dingy B&B somewhere, give the lot of em food poisoning.

Ask the Aussies, which Team would you pick for England? When they write it down, rip it up in their faces and go and pick 6 of the roughest punch up merchants going and knock 7 bells out of em!

We might only lose by 10/15 then !

i'm quietly confident the nationality of the referee will not affect the outcome in the slightest...

i thought the ref was poor last time out, he owes us but I doubt that will count for anything and as usual all the 50/50's will go against us, but I agree with a comment made earlier that it is highly unlikely the ref will have too big an influence on the end result.

Im scared that the aussies will win by a landslide (40) im just hoping its worth getting up at 0700 on a sunday

Do we know anywhere showing the game and serving breakfast on Sunday so early?

Manley Hotel, Nr Brisbane, near Wally Lewis land (and Gene Miles). Better still the Winnum/Manly Footie club, where they both played, (and a certain Phil Collins, who hails from Wigan). good luck to the English boys.

Teams....



Seriously I love Locky but I am shamed that we are so desperate that we have to play him at Stand Off at Test Level. That is a sad indictment for the game in England if ever there was one.

Glad Tomkins is at FB but those half backs are not good enough to beat saints. I would have played Brown and Robinson just in the hope they might click like they can for Hudds.

Would prefer Burgess at loose, hope they keep him on when Fielden comes on.

Having seen that team I am going to set Sky+ and watch it at my own leisure Sunday morning. (Not that I expected us to pull superstars out of nowhere)

Saints?
I thought England are playing the Aussies.

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"Watmough could recall precious little about the match after copping a stray elbow in the head from England halfback Sam Tomkins."

Soft .

Well, as Jamie Peacock said "You want it like that? You can have it"

I've always said, the way to beat the Ockers is to start a punch up early doors. For me, that's exactly what England should have done last week against NZ when they came back to 18-10 and had NZ on the ropes, briefly.

Well will get tonked.

Hope I’m wrong but I can’t see anything but a convincing Aus win.

Mystic Joe says

We beat Australia by 2 scores.
We beat PNG by less than the Aussies did
Final is England vs NZ.
We win by 24 points to ten.

or I hope any way.

In fact, if i am hoping for stuff. I hope we stuff everyone and then Warrington signs Graham and swaps Hodgeson's contract for William slater's.

This is do-able guys.

Both England and Australia haven't got 100% ideal squads. Play hard and stay focused. Don't put the heads down and focus on the desire to do one over the Aussies and we are home free.

"William Slater's"

being shown at the bel air plus you can get some breakfast.

It's worse than that, I don't think the 3/4s would beat Saints either. We used to have centres who could hold their own against the Aussies and wingers like Robinson and Offiah who were at least the equal of their opponents, but from the start of SL things have been in a steep decline.

For the last 4 or 5 years in particular the English/British 3/4 line up has been very poor but this appears to be plumbing new depths.

Tomkins and the constantly injured Eastmond aside do we currently have any backs who are international standard?

I really hope I'm proved wrong, but I fear that the only way we can avoid a 40+ point pummelling is for the game to be turned into a forward battle. We can have no other strategy.

Lockers will tackle everything that moves (and still get criticised) I'm sure but in the forwards we need massive performances - Graham to be firing, Fielden to step up a couple of gears and the boys playing in the NRL to justify their big reputations.

We need to forget trying to win the game and set out to hurt the Ozzies (legitmately, but with the odd massive punch up if possible!).

We need to face facts: other than the genius of Tomkins we have nothing to offer in the backs whatsoever. The only thing I would want from Robinson is for him to have the best kicking game of his life.

If he does that and his distribution is average but the forwards perform we will stand a chance of keeping the defeat down to an unembarrassing margin.

Is it me or is this all a bit depressing?

Thank God we have the WCC to look forward to!

We're going to get battered.

At WCC?

I wasn't going to say out but ... I agree.




Nah just trolling

Like when Wire got battered in their last WCC, oh no wait Wire haven't played in a WCC have they.

Don't worry just trolling you.

No mention on BBC North West Tonight on the game thank the lord for ITV Granada who showed around 45sec.