Looking at the Leeds site, just a caution for Joel.

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Im not sure what to think on this to be honest. He hasnt been his best the last few games and it was a stupid thing to do. I think the best for him is to be banned for a game and too miss out and know that his stupid action effectively cost us the game.

If he is available for Friday I hope he proves himself in training and if he does play, I dont think he deserves the captaincy.

It's not a one off with JT, he's been consistently ill disciplined.

Short sharp shock is in order.

He needs to learn his lesson and stop giving stupid Penaltys away like this or one day he is going to find him self facing a lengthy ban.

He'll also get a reputation for being easy to provoke, which won't do him or us any good at all.

Joel Tomkins should be dropped for Friday's game, due to his being unable or unwilling to curb his trantrums and cockiness which leads to penalty after penalty and which cost us last nights game. The club should do this to demonstrate that he cannot keep putting himself before club

Correct decision. Should have probably been a sin binning, but certainly didn't warrant a match ban.

The fact is his stupidity cost us the game and that should be punishment enough for Joel.

He needs to become a lot smarter because he is a liability at times.

Joel needs a reality check, he isnt playing half as well as at the start of the year, his lack of disclipline is going to cost us big in the coming weeks if he isnt careful.

And for that reason I would consider dropping him for Friday

Maybe he needs a reminder that he can't take his position for granted.

Id bench him. We can't drop him all together. H to start, Joel to bench, tuson to miss out.

leave him out for friday.

let him have a long hard look at himself.

So is Mcguire getting away with taking out the Carmont?

It was a tackle off the ball. Not worthy of a one match ban. Correct decision.

Well some people seem to want Joel dropped, but if he's dropped we don't have a chance in hell of winning. Our pack is small, there's no real enforcer there and our backs do most of the hard work getting us up the field. Joel is the only player in the back row capable of making 100 metres plus during a game. O'Loughlin has on two occasions this year only because of a couple of clean breaks. Other than that his metres made are low. In terms of hard metres no one can get close to Joel which means he must be picked. Unfortunately we just don't have the strength in depth.

Did you watch the Bradford game? he was immense!!

Dropping him for Fridays game (our most important game of the season) we be laughable! Drop your best Second Row for having a brain fart and reacting badly to some kind of provocation! How about the coach just does his job and tries to coach that element from him, dropping him could seriously affect his confidence. If he was a fairy we would all be whinging at him to show some kind of aggression

If we stuck to this mentality then players like Joel, Gaz Hock etc would never play

2nd week in a row that he's given away a daft penalty on the last, near our line towards the end of the half.

how much have wigan paid to get that dirty t**t off

I agree, drop him, and Sam aswell for being his brother...

It's the right call.

It was a stupid thing to do, and probably deserved a yellow, but not worthy of a ban.

If he made contact with the head (I know its a big if) then we would not see him play again this season. Fans moan about Hocks brain farts, Joels last night was as daft as I have seen for a long time.

According to Phil Clarke on Sky last night,Joel is the most penalised player this year in Super League.

I fully agree, but he didn't make contact.

He didn't set out to kick him in order to injure him, it wasn't malicious at all just plain stupid, and it was rightly punished.

You don't know the rules do you? It's a yellow card offence. Find me an instance where the disciplinary has charged anyone for a professional foul. The RFL archive their disciplinary reviews on their website, so take as much time as you need.

I can believe that. He needs to sort that out, there's no doubt he's got plenty of ability. He could play a lot of Test rugby in the coming years, but we don't need to be giving the Aussies and Kiwis easy metres with daft penalties.