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| According to sporting life website, Bails in at centre for Gleeson.
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| thought we missed him today loads. Bailey is a terrible centre.
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| who was actually injured? and what are there injures and how long will they be out for? because it seems as though our injury list is looking longer and longer by the minute
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| Just said the same on another thread, was two tries down that right hand side were nobody even got a hand on the attacker.
Coley
Hansen
Lulu
Roberts
Gleeson
Goulding
Deacon
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| The right hand side in defence has been truely pathetic in the past couple of weeks. I'm not sure why Gleeson missed out tonight but if he was dropped he could really have no complaints because he was ripped apart by Yere last week at Sheffield but Bailey also had a defensive nightmare in that game and shouldn't have been anywhere near the centre spot tonight. He simply isn't quick enough anymore to play at centre and got shown up at times.
We really could do with Gleeson, Leuluai, Goulding and Coley back for next week and Roberts and Hansen back asap.
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| Not speading rumours but Glees was last minute drop out!!!!!!!
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| Gleeson picked up an injury in training yesterday but failed to recover in time for todays game.
Lets just say that is from as good a source as is possible.
No rumours, simple facts
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| We really missed him, Bailey is miles too slow for centre, if we don't get anyone back for next week we'll have to give a youngster a run instead. I reckon this line up, although inexperienced, would work better:
FB 5 Richards
RW 22 Ainscough
RC 32 Walker/20 Pryce
LC 4 Carmont
LW 27 Marsh
SO 1 Phelps
SH 6 Sam
P 8 Fielden
H 9 Riddell
P 14 Prescott
SR 23 Mossop
SR 12 Joel
LF 13 O'Loughlin
S 15 McIllorum
S 17 Paleaaesina
S 21 O'Carroll
S 25 Farrell
What were people's views on Ainscough tonight? I'm a big fan but thought he was disappointing compared to how he usually plays. Having said that you could argue that he was on a hiding to nothing playing outside Bailey.
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| Whats happened to Baileys defence? He's improved a little bit in attack but his defence has gone awful he is slipping off tackles all the time.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Whats happened to Baileys defence? He's improved a little bit in attack but his defence has gone awful he is slipping off tackles all the time.'"
He looks ready for his rocking chair this season, needs dropping.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The right hand side in defence has been truely pathetic in the past couple of weeks. [uI'm not sure why Gleeson missed out tonight but if he was dropped he could really have no complaints because he was ripped apart by Yere last week at Sheffield [/ubut Bailey also had a defensive nightmare in that game and shouldn't have been anywhere near the centre spot tonight. He simply isn't quick enough anymore to play at centre and got shown up at times.
We really could do with Gleeson, Leuluai, Goulding and Coley back for next week and Roberts and Hansen back asap.'"
No He Wasn't. Bailey was ripped to shreds by Yere.
And we missed him Massively last night, He's been one of our Top 3/4 players almost every week for me this year.
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| Where's rogues' ''I told you so!'' comments about bailey?
Call it bagging/getting on his back all you want. Fact is, he was one major differences between winning and losing tonight.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Where's rogues' ''I told you so!'' comments about bailey?
Call it bagging/getting on his back all you want. Fact is, he was one major differences between winning and losing tonight.'"
Bailey was poor last night, and was done for pace. However, who was supposed to be defending on his inside?
He was left stranded a few times. I wonder if it was Mossop who had that job, from the comments made after last week when the same thing happened.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"No He Wasn't. Bailey was ripped to shreds by Yere.
And we missed him Massively last night, He's been one of our Top 3/4 players almost every week for me this year.'"
I thought Yere gave Gleeson nightmares before he was switched to wing aswell tbh although possibly not as bad as the ones he gave to Bailey.
I agree we need Gleeson back and that he's been a consistant preformer. He's been solid as a rock since he came to the club but I thought last week he dropped a little short of that. It's doesn't take anything away from the fact that he's a miss though and that we simply can't play Bailey at centre.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"We really missed him, Bailey is miles too slow for centre, if we don't get anyone back for next week we'll have to give a youngster a run instead. I reckon this line up, although inexperienced, would work better:
FB 5 Richards
RW 22 Ainscough
RC 32 Walker/20 Pryce
LC 4 Carmont
LW 27 Marsh
SO 1 Phelps
SH 6 Sam
P 8 Fielden
H 9 Riddell
P 14 Prescott
SR 23 Mossop
SR 12 Joel
LF 13 O'Loughlin
S 15 McIllorum
S 17 Paleaaesina
S 21 O'Carroll
S 25 Farrell
=#FF0000What were people's views on Ainscough tonight? I'm a big fan but thought he was disappointing compared to how he usually plays. Having said that you could argue that he was on a hiding to nothing playing outside Bailey.'"
I thought he did o.k. but didn't get much decent ball. My concern and always has been is his positional play.
When we broke up the right hand side in the second half (when Joel passed the ball to Quins) Ainscough was some twenty metres behind play, Joel had no passing option on his outside. That doesn't excuse Joel, he should've held on just as Stu Fielden also should have a little earlier.
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| Mixed bag from Ainscough tbh.
I'm pretty pleased to see he hasn't been bagged for the defeat on here though. I expected to come on here last night and read that the whole defeat was basically the lads fault. I'd have loved to have seen him outside Gleeson last night and hopefully that will be the case next week(if Goulding isn't fit).
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| We really did miss gleeson last night I thought. Thought Ainy was pretty poor to be honest, a couple of defensive errors led to 2 quins tries and I expected alot better from him considering it was his first game back from injury. Thought all of the backs bar phelps where pretty average last night, phelpsy looked alot better than he has done in previous weeks as I think he has now got his fitness back.
Excellent game from a certain Liam Farrell, head and shoulders above any of our players last night and you would not think it was only his second super league game, I was majorly impressed with Liam, we have a star on our hands. Thought Jonny Walker didn't let anyone down as well, as expected he got stuck in, took some good ball and was involved in plenty of tackles. Feka and Riddell also had very good games I thought.
Looking ahead to next week I would drop mossop because I thought he was pretty poor and try so hard to get Lockers back at loose, although he was his usual busy self throughout the game.
Id go with...
1. Phelps
2. Goulding/ Marsh
3. Gleeson
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Leuluai/Deacon
8. Fielden
9. Riddell
10. Coley
11. Farrell
12. Joel Tomkins
13. O'Loughlin
14. Feka
15. O'Carroll
16. McIllorum
17. Walker
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| Last night proved O'Loughlin/Sam wont work. We either need to give Phelps a go at 6, and go with 2 kids on the wings, or we need one of Tommy/Deacon back desperately.
The injuries are a problem, but with some composure last night we would have won.
Ainscough was at fault for the first try, because he seems incapable of jumping. Apart from that he was okay, didnt do anything good or bad tbh.
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| Quote ="AJ"
Ainscough was at fault for the first try, because he seems incapable of jumping. Apart from that he was okay, didnt do anything good or bad tbh.'"
He did enough to stop Sharp from scoring. That was Bailey's fault more than Ainscough's. The palm back to centre tactic will always work when the centre isn't covered.
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| Quote ="AJ"Last night proved O'Loughlin/Sam wont work. We either need to give Phelps a go at 6, and go with 2 kids on the wings, or we need one of Tommy/Deacon back desperately.
The injuries are a problem, but with some composure last night we would have won.
Ainscough was at fault for the first try, because he seems incapable of jumping. Apart from that he was okay, didnt do anything good or bad tbh.'"
Lockers was terrible at 6 wasn't he. The amount of times he went away from his usual game of shipping the ball wide instead choosing to keep on taking the line on wasn't funny! He seemed to have it in his head that he had to play as a natural 6 that will keep on testing the line when it simply isn't his game.
Hopefully Leuluai and/or Deacon will be back next week but if not we can't play Locker there again. I'd be tempted to throw Howarth in at 6 if those guys aren't back.
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| Quote ="Geoff"He did enough to stop Sharp from scoring. That was Bailey's fault more than Ainscough's. The palm back to centre tactic will always work when the centre isn't covered.'"
Ainscough didnt move.
Quote ="NickyKiss"Lockers was terrible at 6 wasn't he. The amount of times he went away from his usual game of shipping the ball wide instead choosing to keep on taking the line on wasn't funny! He seemed to have it in his head that he had to play as a natural 6 that will keep on testing the line when it simply isn't his game.
Hopefully Leuluai and/or Deacon will be back next week but if not we can't play Locker there again. I'd be tempted to throw Howarth in at 6 if those guys aren't back.'"
He isn't a 6. We need to try something else there next week. Phelps would be the choice for me. Ainscough & Goulding/Marsh on wings, Richards @ 1 with Gleeson and Carmont in the centres.
We missed Bailey's defence in centre field.
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| Quote ="AJ"Ainscough didnt move.
He isn't a 6. We need to try something else there next week. Phelps would be the choice for me. Ainscough & Goulding/Marsh on wings, Richards @ 1 with Gleeson and Carmont in the centres.
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Lockers should play 6 again tbh. He's a fabulous loose forward and we missed him in that position last night.
I'd agree with your options if Gleeson is back.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"=#FF0080Lockers should play 6 again tbh. He's a fabulous loose forward and we missed him in that position last night.
I'd agree with your options if Gleeson is back.'"
Really?
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| Quote ="AJ"Really?
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I'm losing my mind on the back of that defeat last night!
*Shouldn't Shouldn't Shouldn't*
Never a 6.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Where's rogues' ''I told you so!'' comments about bailey?
Call it bagging/getting on his back all you want. Fact is, he was one major differences between winning and losing tonight.'"
Cant blame one player for that loss
win as a team lose as a team
that result came from a few missed tackles out wide, a few missed tackles down the middle, and a lack of completion in the second half.
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