there is a revolution coming......
other teams watch out.

from what ive seen and heard michael mcguire is now what graham lowe was in the 80`s.
he will change the face of super league... mark my words....

Well, that would be going backwards, but I get what you mean.

I agree completely.

Wigan are on their way back to the top, it's a shame this phase in our history has taken longer than expected but it will be worth it in the end. We are the next team to dominate like Leeds, Saints and Bradford have done.

This has the makings of a - 2010 year of the "Wolfs" embarrassment.

Things are looking bright but lets not get carried away yet. I sense it will be evolution not revolution.

Good way of describing it but do we have a reason not to get excited? I am not saying we will win things but I know that in the next 3 years we will be playing in finals and probably winning a few.

Agreed....

I would see how he goes next year if I were you.There are some very good coaches out there , mc lennan , Smith , Potter and Brown to name a few. What makes you think Maguire is going to be any more successful than those.

It's not just MaGuire its the whole set up and the youth coming through.

Exactly my sentiments on the other thread.

'Evolution not revolution' is a very sensible statement - I hope our fans' expectations stay in line with this.

I understand there is still a lot of growing to do, but surely we should all be expecting the same result in the end.

The interesting bit is that Maguire will have vitually the same squad that Noble had last year.
What has improved is that Tim Smith and Ritchie Mathers have gone and Martin Gleeson and Paul Deacon have arrived since the start of last season.

Things are looking up for sure, but, to say we are going to dominate is utterly ridiculous. We haven't even competed for 5 years [Yes we got to Semi-Finals but we have bottled every single one. A competitive Wigan is what to expect next year.

lets wait and see.

over optimism has an habit of coming back and biting your bum

The futures bright I might just wear my shades

There is no doubt the club as a whole is heading in the right direction. As for a revolution, well i'd prefer to wait and see if our results prove this.

Our problem will be that our pack is the same.

But it should be a lot fitter

Can we stop the 'year of the warrior' crap?

Let's not get carried away. Being a head coach COULD be a bridge too far for MM. Let's comment in June/July.

But they will all be bigger, fitter and more motivated by Wane. They will be running in like Wane used to because they won't play if they don't.

There's no problemns in being optimistic, hell with the set-ups in place and the things coming out of the club, why should we not get excited?

BUT....

We are building us up to be the Harlem Globetrotters of SL. We will not win 'everything before us' this season. That's not me saying I don't think we can because I do think we are more than capable of winning a trophy.

The posters posting that we will 'dominate' SL will be IMO among the first to post 'Maguire Out' when we don't dominate SL.

Be patient, success will come in time.

Lets walk before we can run. We need to simply start the season off strong.

To be fair, the only person who used the word dominate was Odemwingie. However I suspect he didn't mean we were going to win everything, or even to do it next season - I merely think he was being a little over zealous at the prospect of us being a real serious challenger again over the next few years.

For however poor we were at times last year, and for however much the fans of some clubs decry us as rubbish we were within 13 points of the challenge cup final (or more rightly a stupid 20 minutes of play), and 4 points of the grand final.

Now if we can do that with a side that most can see isn't playing to it's potential.......

I remember feeling really optimistic about our chances before the Millward season. I'd hate to see some of the posts in this thread in sigs on other forums. Let's see what happens

Been reading this board for a couple of weeks and finally dicided to have my input and ask a question?

Why do you think that you will have a better season than last year?

From looking from the outside you seem to putting a lot of faith in a untested first grade coach, now while he has a great assistant caoch pedigree, that doesnt mean he will make a great SL coach.

The other reason seems to be that your youth players and their are some great ones will be a year older, but isnt that the same with all teams?

A few other teams have strengthen(some more than others), while you have signed Deacon who should be no more than a back up.

Unless you sign at least another (top) prop forward I cant see you challenging for a trophy and would expect you to finish outside the top four (before playoffs).

I can see on and off the field that Wigan are haeding in the right direction (hopfully like my team Hull), but it may need another season where Mcguire can bring in his own players and get the team playing the way he wants too.

EXACTLY. Thank you

Like i said, if we can be within 20 minutes of the CC final, and 4 points of the grand final, with a group of players who most of us know we're not getting 100% from, then it's not unreasonable to be happy about a new coaching setup (not just head coach, assistant, bigger and better conditioning team, more specialist coaching like deacon + rads) and thinking they might just might be able to deliver more.

Seriously for all the flack Wigan cop for 'being crap' and having 'crap players' what does that make most of the super league teams over the past few years who've not done as well?

I also think it's fair to say there are some people you just know will be a success at the profession they've chosen and Maguire (and a lot of his peers in the NRL seem to back this up) definitely comes across as one of them.