1. Never 23,000 inside the DW Stadium, not even close - I predicted about 19,000 at best.

2. Quietest crowd I have ever been at for an Aussie game. The only time the crowd sang was the final verse of God save the Queen.

Seems to me that the only gaps of any significance were in what I assume is the West Stand where there were a couple of massive gaps. All the other stands seemed to be pretty much full, so it isn't so hard to imagine 23,000.

And we went quiet towards the end of the first half. We were noisy to begin with and were noisy in the second half, when we had something to be noisy about because England decided to compete.

Massive gaps in the East Stand, West Stand and significant spaces in North Stand. I was in the South Stand and from where I was sitting there was spare seats in the South, two next to me were not taken. Obviously I attend the DW on a regular basis and you get a general feel for the crowd (like you probably do at KR). I have been to games with 23,000 on like Saints derbies..etc this didn't feel like one.

thats because people have heard about your reputation for being a moaning sod and decided to sit elsewhere!

So much so that you're coming back next season just to sit next to me.






Having just watched the game again on iplayer, the South Stand clearly shows hundreds and hundreds of empty seats. Like I said nowhere near 23,000. Thought someone had said that South Stand had sold out? If so, why buy a ticket and then not go??

Personally, I think the DW Stadium can be deceptive. There have been many matches at Wigan where I've thought the attendance has been either larger or smaller than the offical version.

One thing that always throws you is the North Stand. For most of Wigan's home games, the North Stand is only about a quarter full, and we tend to make all our guestimates based on this.

Don't underestimate those rare occasions - like yesterday - when the North Stand is full. That can throw your calculations out significantly.

i watched the highlights and i guessed around 19-20k tops! Looked a flat atmosphere and just completely dull all round. so glad i didnt go

We couldn't fill a tiny stadium in Doncaster, so it's hardly a surprise. It's a pretty poor showing when we can't fill any stadium for Eng v Aus.

Only one large gap in the West stand plus a few lesser gaps in North and East. Thought 23k was about right. We had the England band behind us in the North Stand and I'm sure if England had started with a bit more heart and got the crowd behind them the atmosphere would have been a lot livelier. Although to be honest, all things considered I didn't think the vocal support was that bad.

Except it wasn't. A good 500-750 off capacity.

For that game to be 23,000 it would have needed the North, South and East to have been 100% sold out, cause there was a good 2000 short in the West Stand.

Someone at the RFL is telling porkies!

you need to take in to consideration it was the bbc.

My thoughts exactly. I just saw two humungous holes on the stand opposite me (West) and some smaller bits and pieces here and there but overall it looked busy enough and, as you say, the atmosphere would have been a lot better had England played in the first half! We were definitely making noise in the second half but by that time I think the bands had lost heart!

What was the reason behind the traffic problems yesterday. Coming from Warrington I thought 2 hrs would be plenty whereas in practice I only just made it. Is it the same every week?

..sod that il be in the west stand as far away from you as possible!


saw the highlights on foxtel before and there were loads of empty seats didnt look like there were 23k on,

Well where I was sat in the North was packed, and the atmosphere was great. Oh, it went a little flat when we were getting tonked but all in all I had a great day, plenty of singing and shouting.

Yep! The saddle junction down to the stadium is a pain in the , and traffic ends up often being backed up towards Sainsbury's. The traffic coming from the direction of the Town centre was shocking too, but that's purely because of the bottle neck on the other side of the saddle junction. Traffic was backed up from there all the way up to the magistrates courts.

After being at the game there didnt look 23k inside that groung yesterday but why does the band go in the north stand as the supporters know its the away end and maybe better if they was in the south to try and create some kind of atmosphere as it was the worst for amosphere since we have been staging games there for a test match.

I reckon 21k tops, but i have been suprised at crowd figures given at games in the past

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The atmosphere was pants, its been better at small Wigan games against Celtic and quins.

Think that's going a [ibit[/i far, don't you? As mentioned already on this thread, it was quite a decent atmosphere in the North Stand.

I was in the North stand and couldn't understand people bagging the atmosphere. We were sat near the band and it was pretty good in there.

Never 23k on. But i'd imagine that all the free tickets sent out to Local Amateur Clubs were counted also, which would account for the big gaps in large blocks of certain stands. 23k tickets may have been dispatched, but never 23k in the ground. The atmosphere wasnt that bad - pretty flat at the end of the first half in a very 'Oh here we go again' mood. But midway through the second half everything perked up and I actually enjoyed my day. If we'd have competed in the first half we may have won.

I think the problem was everyone went in the ends of the ground and the sidelines were scattered about. They charged far too much for the touchline stands.

The North stand always gives off a better atmosphere anyways, the roof on it is solid and bounces the noise back , whereas on the South, it's clear plastic.

. Internationals should have a price cap of £15-£18 with Junior tickets no more than £7.